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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:14 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:14 am to VolSquatch
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Both of those are first and foremost moral statements, Should vs Should not
But the statement is false, the government hasn’t abandoned them.
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:18 am to doubleb
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But the statement is false, the government hasn’t abandoned them.
The statement should be amended and be more specific, absolutely. "The government should do more for hurricane victims before giving anything to Ukraine" would be more precise.
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:26 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:29 am to VolSquatch
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Footage from Selidovo
Russia is starting to take towns and cities without having to level them.
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:42 am to VolSquatch
The government has done as much as is legally possible. The progress made in NC is actually impressive. People have zero clue of what the government can and cannot do. The Hulk Hogan wannabe surely has no clue
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:47 am to CitizenK
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The government has done as much as is legally possible
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:51 am to VolSquatch
Dumbass, FEMA, NCDOT, and local sheriff have turned their backs so that an illegal road could be built to Chimney Rock.
Dude, you give far too much credit for what government can actually do.
Dude, you give far too much credit for what government can actually do.
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 9:52 am
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:03 am to CitizenK
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Dude, you give far too much credit for what government can actually do.
this was authored by a guy who wants the US government to win the war for Ukraine, just so everyone is aware of the irony here
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:43 am to VolSquatch
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The statement should be amended and be more specific, absolutely. "The government should do more for hurricane victims before giving anything to Ukraine" would be more precise.
The world doesn’t stop because we had a devastating hurricane.
We can continue meeting our obligations and tend to our citizens in need as fast as we can.
That’s what FEMA does.
Is FEMA perfect? No. None of government is. And actually it’s so big it tends to be slow to act, and it’s up to the president to orchestrate action and the Congress to fund it properly.
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:06 am to doubleb
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The world doesn’t stop because we had a devastating hurricane.
And our country's needs don't go away because of some war over a country that isn't really that important
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:10 am to cypher
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North Korean defectors offer help to Ukraine.
Defecting North Koreans? What a surprise, who could have predicted this?
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:12 am to VolSquatch
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And our country's needs don't go away because of some war over a country that isn't really that important
It’s been stated before, we are organized to do both.
If we had quit sending arms and aid to Ukraine the day the hurricane hit, there would be no difference in the amount of aid FEMA would bring to the affected areas.
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:17 am to doubleb
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It’s been stated before, we are organized to do both.
"can" vs "should"
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:47 am to doubleb
Details on the $50 billion in loans being made to Ukraine with frozen Russian assets used as collateral, from Nikkei:
As indicated in the article, Japan is restricting its share of the money to non-military use, but the other G7 nations are not imposing restrictions on the money. All of the funds are released to Ukraine by 2027, but the Biden administration has already said that the US share of $20 billion will be given before the end of his term.
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A total of 50 billion dollars (about 7.6 trillion yen) will be shared with the European Union (EU), the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada.
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taly, which holds the G7 presidency, announced on the 28th the details of the contributions and loans of each country and region. Of the approximately 50 billion dollars, the EU will bear 18.115 billion euros (about 3 trillion yen), the United States will pay 20 billion dollars (the same amount), Canada will pay 5 billion Canadian dollars (about 550 billion yen), and the United Kingdom will pay 2.258 billion pounds (about 450 billion yen).
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Japan will provide 471.9 billion yen in yen loans from the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA). Japan will provide loans through a fund under the World Bank. In order to avoid being used for military purposes, we will contribute while managing the use of the funds.
It will be a bilateral loan between G7 members and Ukraine. Each loan will begin as early as December and be disbursed by December 2027 at the latest.
As indicated in the article, Japan is restricting its share of the money to non-military use, but the other G7 nations are not imposing restrictions on the money. All of the funds are released to Ukraine by 2027, but the Biden administration has already said that the US share of $20 billion will be given before the end of his term.
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:39 pm to GOP_Tiger
Our own intelligence agencies downplayed the threat for a while, but the Ukrainian and South Korean intelligence was correct.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:36 pm to doubleb
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Is FEMA perfect?
FEMA was never set up to be a first responder. Dumbasses are acting like FEMA is supposed to come in with all sorts of physical resources, which it has never had, then viola everything gets fixed. It's magic
Posted on 10/28/24 at 2:16 pm to CitizenK
Everyday the govt. spends millions of dollars on hundreds of things foreign and domestic. I’d venture to guess that many of these items are not as important as spending money trying to take care of people in disaster zones.
The US is very fortunate. We are a blessed nation, and we can take care of our own and not interrupt thd business of govt.
Now if you want to argue about the US spending money on programs that you feel are not worthy of our tax dollars, I believe there is lots to discuss.
The US is very fortunate. We are a blessed nation, and we can take care of our own and not interrupt thd business of govt.
Now if you want to argue about the US spending money on programs that you feel are not worthy of our tax dollars, I believe there is lots to discuss.
Posted on 10/28/24 at 2:20 pm to doubleb
Bringing FEMA and NC into the conversation is nothing more than a straw man argument. No different than correcting a small child who says well so and so does it.
Posted on 10/28/24 at 3:00 pm to CitizenK
and from a Constitutional perspective, FEMA shouldn't even exist.
ETA - apologies if this continues the derail from the war....
ETA - apologies if this continues the derail from the war....
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 10/28/24 at 4:30 pm to doubleb
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The US is very fortunate. We are a blessed nation, and we can take care of our own and not interrupt thd business of govt.
Government support for the people in Appalachia hurt by the hurricane has been grossly insufficient
It appears the government either doesn’t consider them a priority, or is providing services to other people in lieu of our own people
The administrations population replacement program consumes an enormous amount of resources, but so does Ukraine
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 4:31 pm
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