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Posted on 8/19/24 at 11:17 am to No Colors
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Those kinds of things go on all over the world all the time. It's really not to the credit or fault of an American president.
What's important is that he didn't pull a GWB and invade the universe
It is indeed Obama's fault that he publicly proclaimed that the use of chemical weapons in Syria would be a red line, and then he did nothing when that line was crossed.
It's hard to imagine anything worse than what Obama did, encouraging rebellion against Assad and then refusing to help the rebels, which eventually resulted in the opposition becoming dominated by ISIS and Al Queda.
Obama took over with Iraq in a halfway decent political situation. But Obama neglected our duty to support the country we had invaded (and wrecked their army). ISIS took Mosul, enslaved thousands of Yezidi women, and wrecked Iraq's Christian heartland (the Nineveh plain) -- and Obama did nothing until it was too late, and Iraq had begged Iran for assistance, and Iran created their militias, which still act as a de facto mafia in Iraq, which is why American forces now get attacked from inside Iraq.
Obama was simply an absolute disaster for the Middle East and for American interests in that part of the world.
EDIT: And I didn't even talk about the terrible Iran deal.
This post was edited on 8/19/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 8/19/24 at 11:21 am to doubleb
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That is a real fire!!! Wow.
Yeah and just think of all the CO2 it is releasing into the atmosphere. If Europe had not spent 20 years using cheap Russian gas to offset the costs and unreliability of green energy then Russia could have never afforded the military buildup it needed to invade Ukraine. The German leaders who were bought and paid for by Gazprom and pushed the green energy shite in Europe for 20 plus years have a lot of egg on their face right about now.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 11:22 am to doubleb
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That is a real fire!!! Wow.
It may be burning so hot they can't get close enough to keep it from spreading.
Fresh high-resolution @planet
satellite images of the burning oil depot near Proletarsk, Russia, in the Rostov Oblast, taken today at 2:23 PM local time. Things are looking grim for Russia: the fire continues to spread, and more than 10 fuel tanks appear to be affected already.
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Posted on 8/19/24 at 11:41 am to WeeWee
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Yeah and just think of all the CO2 it is releasing into the atmosphere. If Europe had not spent 20 years using cheap Russian gas to offset the costs and unreliability of green energy then Russia could have never afforded the military buildup it needed to invade Ukraine
The dumbest move ever. Stop CO2 in Europe but allow more and then some in Russia. Refined products was way more a cash cow than crude oil for Russia.
This post was edited on 8/19/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 8/19/24 at 11:48 am to CitizenK
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Oh snap. Is Putin getting ready to cave or is Lukashenko just running off at the mouth? He is saying that there are no more Nazis in Ukraine even though the Zelensky government which has called Nazis are still in power.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:32 pm to Lee B
Would be amazing if that worked. The US could use a proper culling of idiots that think Russia is the beacon of traditional values and freedom.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:51 pm to WeeWee
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there are no more Nazis in Ukraine
Well when you invent the Nazis to serve your own purpose, I guess you can snap your fingers and make them vanish the same way
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:16 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:57 pm to WeeWee
Some reports say that Russia is very eager to exchange prisoners for those captured conscripts from Petersburg and Moscow.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:59 pm to WeeWee
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He is saying that there are no more Nazis in Ukraine
I can't read that as anything but the beginning of a signal that Putin is ready to declare victory and shut this down.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:00 pm to Auburn1968
We're up 250 sq. km. in the last four days. Ukraine is still expanding the salient.
I'm not sure that people understand the math, but as the salient expands, the advances necessary to secure the same amounts of additional territory decrease, because area is a square measurement.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. I'm not sure that people understand the math, but as the salient expands, the advances necessary to secure the same amounts of additional territory decrease, because area is a square measurement.
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Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:05 pm to CitizenK
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The dumbest move ever. Stop CO2 in Europe but allow more and then some in Russia. Refined products was way more a cash cow the crude oil for Russia.
How much is China allowed to.spew out?
The Paris Climate Accord is a scam.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:11 pm to GOP_Tiger
Some interesting observations here: LINK
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Whatever its strategic significance turns out to be, the Ukrainians maintain they were sending a signal to the Kremlin as well as to the White House that Kyiv was finished operating under self-defeating constraints and that it would now probe red lines that had been set out by both powers. Kyiv has long been frustrated at being provided with just enough support from Washington in order to not lose—but not enough to overcome the numerically superior and better financed Russian army. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has expressed that frustration publicly, stating that “our partners are afraid of Russia losing the war.”
Unlike last summer’s failed counteroffensive in Kharkiv, Ukraine launched the Kursk operation without first informing Washington of its plans. In fact, Zelenskyy waited a week to break the remarkable operational secrecy that had enveloped the operation.
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Kyiv observed carefully how Israel conducted its strikes immediately after Prime Minister Netanyahu returned from a triumphant speech before the U.S. Congress. In fact, earlier this week the chair of the Ukrainian Parliamentary Committee on National Security and Defense, Roman Kostenko, explicitly referenced the Israeli example in a televised interview. “So Israel announced that they would take the advice of their partners very seriously but would afterward make their own decisions in the best interest of their own national security. I think that we can simply mirror that approach in our own case.”
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More importantly, the official was also confident that the Americans would not pull back support in the aftermath of the Ukrainian incursion. “We have just received the latest aid package from Washington, which represents a de facto legitimization,” he underlined. “The lesson here is that you should just behave in the way that the Americans do themselves. You should do what the Americans themselves do. Not what they tell you to do.”
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:33 pm to TBoy
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He is saying that there are no more Nazis in Ukraine
I can't read that as anything but the beginning of a signal that Putin is ready to declare victory and shut this down.
Sarcasm?
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:33 pm to GOP_Tiger
Question - is this pocket of control in Kursk doing anything to stop the Russian advances in Donbas? Maybe not. So they might just prefer a different approach.
And if they are just trying to control as much land as possible before winter, this can help with negotiations.
Can’t blame Ukraine for any tactics at this point when their supermarkets still are getting hit with Missiles.
And if they are just trying to control as much land as possible before winter, this can help with negotiations.
Can’t blame Ukraine for any tactics at this point when their supermarkets still are getting hit with Missiles.
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Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:34 pm to GOP_Tiger
They already supposedly “went rogue” and destroyed a pipeline they weren’t supposed to, and one of their most prominent brigades were nazis not that long ago according to our own media….. I don’t think weve held them back all that much 
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:35 pm to AGGIES
I think Ukraine knows negotiations are likely to happen soon and result in the end of the war, so take some ground you can trade for your own in those negotiations. The well reported long term costliness of this Kursk op doesn’t matter if it’s about to be over anyway
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:42 pm to VolSquatch
Yep.
Who would’ve thought that all it took was to see Putin’s border breached so easily with thousands of Russians fleeing their villages, for Putin to announce that there are no more Nazis in Ukraine.
Who would’ve thought that all it took was to see Putin’s border breached so easily with thousands of Russians fleeing their villages, for Putin to announce that there are no more Nazis in Ukraine.
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:46 pm to AGGIES
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Question - is this pocket of control in Kursk doing anything to stop the Russian advances in Donbas?
Yeah, its drawn off estimates of at least 5,000 soldiers from that front, not to mention the logistics strain increasing on those advances. The Russians are setting themselves up to some degree to re-experience the overextension and roll back of recent gains, if they keep pushing the envelope on their supply situation.
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