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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:32 pm to
without indoor bathrooms.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:46 pm to
Please explain how Russia is so benevolent and wonderful when they are literally doing exactly what the nazis did by starving and torturing Ukrainian POWs. The lucky ones are getting swapped for Russian POWs except the Russians were actually fed and given medical aid under Ukraine. You can’t and you won’t respond to this because you know there’s no defense to it. Pictures tell the entire story. Men are coming home looking like the Jews in Auschwitz’s death camps just skin and bones. The rest get returned dead, starved and tortured with mangled bodies weighing under 100lbs. Please explain you Russian cock sucker.
Posted by Hateradedrink
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:57 pm to
Bro I agree with you but damn

Relax
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:44 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

Two prominent Russian officials appear to be spearheading divergent paths for addressing religious extremism in Russia as ethnic and religious tension in Russia continues to rise.

Russian ultranationalists continue to express growing doubt in Russian authorities' ability to prevent another terrorist attack and to address ethnic and religious tensions within Russia following the June 23 terrorist attacks in the Republic of Dagestan.

Ten Ukrainian civilians whom Russian and Belarusian authorities arrested and held in captivity or prison, including individuals detained before Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, returned to Ukraine.

Ukrainian forces recently regained lost positions near Kreminna, and Russian forces recently advanced near Kupyansk, Chasiv Yar, Toretsk, and Donetsk City.

Some new Russian military personnel are reportedly receiving insufficient training before deploying to Ukraine.


Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:15 pm to
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And that’s is the major reason why social decline is so much worse in Protestant states.


As compared to Russia, the paragon of cultural virtue and family values. I know that you are proud to support a nation that, as recently as 2020, has the world's highest abortion rate and the 3rd-highest divorce rate.

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they’ve created this farcical apostate church which isn’t considered a real church by the people, because it’s a transparently political creation.


ROFL! Of course, there's nothing political whatsoever about the Russian Orthodox Church. Complete separation of church and state in Russia.

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I don’t say this to offend you or anyone, but you belong to a heretical church,


That's exactly why those Ukrainian evangelical heretics deserve persecution, obviously. Hopefully, Putin can wipe them all out and restore the majesty of the Russky Mir that existed in Ukraine when controlled by the Russian Orthodox Church. There was no corruption back then, just like none in Russia now.



Seriously, you should visit the US someday, just to see how bad it is here. The whole place is full of heretics and has been since Plymouth Rock. That's why it never amounted to anything.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 9:20 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:36 pm to
I know I just made fun of it, but I really wish everyone would read Lima's post carefully. He confirmed that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a kind of jihad, an attempt to reimpose religious control over Ukraine. He attempted to justify persecution of evangelical Christians in Russian-controlled Ukraine with the explanation that they deserve it, because they are heretics. And he actually had the gall to claim that the OCU's creation was political, when in fact his own Russian Orthodox Church is literally run by a KGB agent who operates as a part of the Russian state.

If you wanted a summary of the freakishly twisted logic of the Z invasion, I'm not sure that you could get a better one than Lima just offered.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:02 pm to
Real talk with true professionals.
Posted by cwil1
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:24 pm to
Why do you keep posting these Russian simps?
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:37 pm to
Russia doesn;t own the Black Sea. Warships can only pass through the Bosphorus with Turkey's permission. Biden withdrew US warships from the Black Sea before the renewed invasion of 2022

Professionals at boot licking Russia is all they are
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:56 pm to
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Why do you keep posting these Russian simps?


McGovern is a long-time Russian shill. He also co-founded VIPS with Ritter and Larry Johnson. Peas in a Russian pod. Note that VIPS didn't disavow Ritter after he was exposed as a lover of underage girls.
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:19 am to
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If you wanted a summary of the freakishly twisted logic of the Z invasion


You mean to tell me that they've moved on from Nazis, Super Soldiers, CIA bases, and Bio Labs?

Next thing you're gonna tell me the whole demilitarization thing isn't working out either.
Posted by REG861
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:27 am to
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You mean to tell me that they've moved on from Nazis, Super Soldiers, CIA bases, and Bio Labs? Next thing you're gonna tell me the whole demilitarization thing isn't working out either.


Lima is cut from a different cloth than the average PT idiot. He’s an actual Duginist fascist in the literal sense. In his own words he does not believe in democracy and wants a full time, state incorporated military economy which is why he no joke, praises North Korea. All his talk about the decadent West is just a cover for the fact that he’s a fundamentalist, which makes sense because he supports Hamas despite his long winded Christian diatribes. Everything boils down to the Jews for him, no matter how much word vomit he cloaks it in (ie neocons, Bolsheviks… it’s all the Jews stealing his wealth.), If you’ve ever read to tried to read Dugin, you know what I mean. There’s no internal logic, it’s just unbalanced fundamentalism wrapped up in quasi-occultist Eastern Orthodox nonsense.

In other words, he’s mentally Ill and should be pitied.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 8:33 am
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:44 am to
Summed up nicely. There’s a few posters that should not be meaningfully engaged as their mental status is questionable.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5781 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:35 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 30 June 2024

In Vovchansk, Kharkiv oblast, fighting is reportedly focused on the Aggregate Plant, where Ukrainian forces are attempting to dislodge Russian forces from this strongpoint in the south-east of the town. The town remains contested. No confirmed Russian advances have been made around Chasiv Yar over the last 72 hours. Combat has reportedly been most intense in Ivanivske and Klishchiivka, to the south of the town. Ukrainian forces have reportedly counterattacked in Klishchiivka making tactical gains.

In the Kurakhiv direction, west of Donetsk City, Russian forces have made further advances within the town of Krasnohorivka and are now likely in control of most of the town, with Ukrainian forces now only present in the extreme north of the settlement.

The Avdiivka-Pokrovsk sector remains the probable Russian main effort and continues to see the highest Russian operational tempo. Russian forces have made minor advances across a relatively broad front towards the villages of Niu-York, Pivnichne, and Pivdenne. Over the next week the Avdiivka-Pokrovsk sector is likely to remain an area of significant operational focus for Russian forces as they attempt to maintain pressure on defending Ukrainian forces, and make opportunistic territorial gains.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:38 pm to
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You mean to tell me that they've moved on from Nazis, Super Soldiers, CIA bases, and Bio Labs?



The fact that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is, in large part, a religious war is something that has largely escaped notice in the West, because most reporters and media types aren't religious people and don't understand religion.

Of course, the USSR was officially atheist, but the Communists quickly realized that they couldn't stamp out Christianity. So, they put KGB agent (including the current Patriarch Kirill) in seminaries and recruited other priests so that they could ensure that the Russian Orthodox Church would support the state.

That's a big part of why, after the fall of the USSR, American Baptist missionaries found such a great response from Ukrainians -- they understood that part of their oppression had been carried out through the Russian Orthodox Church, and they closely associated that corrupt church with their oppression, and many people were naturally looking for an alternative. By 2020, there were more Baptists in Ukraine than in any other European country but the UK -- some 4% of the population was evangelical.

But that Baptist influence wasn't only in Ukraine. Odessa Theological Seminary trained a lot of Russian Baptist preachers as well. For Putin and his cronies, this was dangerous, because Russia today uses the Russian Orthodox Church as an instrument of population control in the same way that the USSR did. The idea of a free church, where every church is independent and church government is conducted through votes of the members, echoes the same ideas of freedom from the USA's Founders, and those ideas are a threat to the Russian corrupt system of government.

That's why Putin's cronies see Baptist and other evangelical churches as a threat -- they bring in western ideas about freedom that extend beyond religious freedom.



to be continued ...
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:47 pm to
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I don’t say this to offend you or anyone, but you belong to a heretical church
Don't give it a second thought.

When you post something that stupid, no one is offended.
They just laugh and shake their heads.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 3:24 pm to
At least we agree on something
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:13 pm to
Any actual news on the war? The lack of substantive posts when I’m out of pocket for a few days usually gives me a pretty good clue as to how things are going.

Some things I’ve picked up on in the past few days:

- the far right won the first round of elections in France, which could be bad for Ukraine long term

- I’ve heard a claim that Ukraine wants to mobilize 5,000 troops per day, but haven’t been able to find any sources to back that up. It’s interesting that it’s right around double the amount Russia claims for to be killing per day @ 2,000. If I can find sources I’ll edit and post

- Russia’s FAB-3000’s seem to be pretty effective at taking out fortified positions based on reports

On Russian advances, has anyone seen any reliable source study the type of territory that is being captured? I ask because taking .25 km sq. That includes a fortified position or two is more significant than taking 25km sq of relatively empty land. It sounds like it’s mostly just rural-ish towns where both sides engage in urban warfare without many fortifications.
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