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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:09 am to
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:09 am to
Link?
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:14 am to
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Link?


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notiger1997



Have you been reading the thread for more than a day?

Its an extremely common narrative that Russia will run out of vehicles and barrels within the next 8-12 months

Its also an extremely common narrative that Russia's economy will collapse within the next 8-12 months.

The typical Ukraine First crowd brings it up at least once a week.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:48 am to
Russia's key coal industry on verge of financial collapse
Thursday, 27 June 2024, 18:31

Profits in Russia's coal mining sector have plummeted by 93% in the first four months of 2024 to just RUB 14.3 billion (roughly US$161.2 million).

Source: Russian newspaper The Moscow Times, citing data from Russia's Federal State Statistics Service

Details: It is noted that less than half of the companies in the industry ended the first four months of 2024 in the black, compared to two-thirds a year ago. Additionally, their total financial result was halved to RUB 72 billion (roughly US$820 million).

The Moscow Times adds that every second company, based on official statistics, became unprofitable (52.4%), with their total losses for the first four months of 2024 reaching RUB 58 billion (roughly US$663.4 million).

Consequently, the coal miners' profit in January-April totalled only RUB 14.3 billion, down almost RUB 200 billion (roughly US$2.2 billion) from the same period a year earlier.

Russia's coal industry is one of the largest raw material industries in the country's economy, spanning over 30 monotowns and employing 650,000 people.

Cut off from Western markets by sanctions, coal companies are rapidly losing customers in countries that the Kremlin calls "friendly". Russian coal exports fell by 13% in the year's first quarter.

India, which accounts for about a third of Russia's coal exports, reduced imports by 22% to 6.76 million tonnes in March-May. Exports to Türkiye, South Korea and Japan plummeted as well.

China, the largest buyer of Russian raw materials, imposed an import duty on coal that does not apply to other suppliers, such as Indonesia and Australia, which are members of the free trade zone with China.

In addition, prices for Russian coal have reached a three-year low: US$95 per tonne in the Far East ports (6% since the beginning of the year), US$72 per tonne in Taman (13%), and only US$61 in the Baltic Sea ports (14%).

The Moscow Times noted that Russia's coal industry is currently in a state of cash gap (when incoming payments are less than expenses), and by the end of the year, its negative cash flow is expected to reach RUB 450 billion (roughly US$5.1 billion).

Additionally, the cost of coal increased by 30% due to rising expenses for imported equipment, railway tariffs, wagon rentals, port transshipment, ship insurance, and loan servicing, all driven by a sharp rise in Russia's Central Bank's key rate.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:51 am to
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Someone should tell him that there are numerous posters in the TigerDroppings Ukraine Thread who have exactly when Russia will collapse pegged down to a few months.


3 days?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:06 pm to
Russian official calls for total destruction of 'everything Ukrainian'

by Nate Ostiller and The Kyiv Independent news desk June 27, 2024 4:00 PM

Dmitry Rogozin, a Russian official heading the Russian occupation of Zaporizhzhia Oblast, said on June 27 that it is "time to burn everything Ukrainian down to the root" so that "there is no trace left."

Rogozin's comments were the latest in a long series of genocidal comments directed at Ukraine made by Russian officials and propagandists, a trend that has only increased since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

The genocidal intent of Russia's aggression toward Ukraine has manifested in war crimes and indiscriminate violence directed at Ukrainian civilians, but also in the denial and distortion of history, attempts to erase Ukrainian culture, and the abduction and deportation of Ukrainian children.

Rogozin, who serves as the "senator" of occupied Zaporizhzhia Oblast, also referenced the need to destroy Ukrainian literature and history in his comments. He previously was the CEO of the state-run space corporation Roscosmos, a deputy prime minister, and the ambassador to NATO.

There can be "no truce" with Ukrainians, Rogozin said, because "any truce, let alone reconciliation, is certain death for our children and grandchildren."

Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:16 pm to
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France sent military instructors, so I'm not sure this is any more "escalatory" than that.


It depends on the number of people and what they are doing.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:19 pm to
And if you’ve read the thread you’d know that Vol is an attention whore, he exagerates a lot and he makes excuses for Russia every day.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:19 pm to
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And if you’ve read the thread you’d know that Vol is an attention whore, he exagerates a lot and he makes excuses for Russia every day.



Notice how none of this references anything I actually said, because it was 100% accurate.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42854 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Notice how none of this references anything I actually said, because it was 100% accurate.


How long is your nose?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8497 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:27 pm to
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How long is your nose?



What was inaccurate about what I said then?

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24394 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:32 pm to
Catching up on this thread and saw where one of our resident Russia bots claimed that a third of Ukraines population left the country because of "money laundering" and/or corruption. Then to prove that point posted this:
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As a result of heavy shelling and fighting, an estimated 3.7 million people have been driven from their homes and are internally displaced and nearly 6.5 million people have crossed into neighboring countries in the region including Poland, Hungary, Moldova or other countries globally.

So, "heavy shelling and fighting" now is "money laundering"...

I've still yet to have any of the Russian supporters explain exactly how the money laundering scheme in Ukraine works. Should be easy to explain...


ETA: Stormy addressed this later in the thread.
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Who knew that shelling is just military jargon for money laundering...TIL
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 12:40 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21088 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:44 pm to
US in talks to send Israel’s Patriot systems to Ukraine

Transfer of up to eight batteries would mark shift in Israel’s relations with Moscow


Financial Times

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The US, Israel and Ukraine are in talks to supply Kyiv with up to eight Patriot air defence systems, dramatically improving its ability to counter Russian air strikes. While not finalised, the arrangement would likely involve the highly prized Patriot systems being sent first from Israel to the US, before being delivered to Ukraine.

The outlines of the deal, which would mark a shift in Israel’s relations with Moscow, have been discussed between ministers and senior officials of the three countries, according to five people briefed on the negotiations.

Israel said in April that it would begin retiring its eight Patriot batteries, which date back more than 30 years, and replacing them with more advanced systems.

But the batteries, which have been used in Israel’s current war with Hamas, have not yet been discontinued due to concerns that tensions with the Iran-backed Hizbollah militant group could erupt into a full-blown war.

If realised, such a transfer would represent a step change in Ukraine’s defensive capabilities. The country currently has at least four Patriot systems, supplied by both the US and Germany.

Ukraine has frequently requested that western allies supply it with air defence systems, in particular the US-made Patriots. Last week, the US announced that it was pausing the delivery of Patriot interceptor missiles to other nations to prioritise supply to Ukraine.

Israel has been cautious about taking sides over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine given the clout Moscow holds in Syria, where the Israeli air force often acts against Iranian proxies.



More at the link.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16278 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 1:03 pm to
China cannot be happy with Putin's trips to North Korea and Vietnam. The former is a loose canon nuisance neighbor, the later is a smaller rival. China desperately needs trade with the West, which definitely has decreased with EU nations and reshoring of some industries back to the USA is setting the stage for even lower trade with us.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:05 pm to
Why would they care if the are both problem children?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:12 pm to
American greed and naivety created the monster that we now face. The failed policy of trade will make China more like us. We will change them through openness and trade while selling out the American people. Many of the Davos crowd would love to see the Chinese model implemented in the US. Low wages, bad working conditions and restricted personal liberties. They feasted on those high profits in China and now it seems to be crashing. Dementia Joe is now establishing the workforce for it with his illegals. Workforce and future votes to establish basically a one party state.

The East German communist Merkel tried that bit with Russia and see how that has turned out.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:22 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/24/26 at 6:05 pm
Posted by PureBlood
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Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:27 pm to


you fake war supporters are ignant
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:52 pm to
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US in talks to send Israel’s Patriot systems to Ukraine

Transfer of up to eight batteries would mark shift in Israel’s relations with Moscow


Anyone who supports this is absolutely insane. Zelenskyy is ready to talk peace and we up the ante in a fashion more provocative than anything we did during the cold war? The people running our country / NATO have an end goal that we aren't privy to, because none of this makes sense (or has ever made sense).
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Very odd timing. Zelensky is sounding like me at this point and seems to want to put an end to the LARP so many more lives can be saved. I wonder why he’s saying this today of all days. Hmmmmm… anyone got a guess?


Boris Johnson (a horrible person) killed the previous peace overtures at the behest of the cabal.

Zelenskyy is lucky that Trump is such a decent human and will help settle this on relatively fair terms because any less of a man would hold a very big grudge and would leave Zelenskyy twisting in the wind (just as he left Trump twisting in the wind during the 2018/19 impeachment fiasco).
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 2:57 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16278 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 3:03 pm to
Seeing these last several posts and who they are from tells me that Russia must be losing and the VK gave marching orders
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