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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:09 pm to VolSquatch
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:09 pm to VolSquatch
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Those who deny the escalation risk of such occurrences
How does the collateral damage of civilians in an occupied territory risk escalation? What's Putin gonna do? Invade Ukraine? Bomb its electricity grid? Maybe turn some villages to rubble?
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:13 pm to No Colors
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How does the collateral damage of civilians in an occupied territory risk escalation? What's Putin gonna do? Invade Ukraine? Bomb its electricity grid? Maybe turn some villages to rubble?
Did this guy get outraged when Russian missiles kill civilians in Ukraine? No
Civilians get killed in war all the time. It’s very unfortunate. No one should ever be happy about it. But when Putin invaded Ukraine he knew it was bound to happen, and he did not care one but.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:13 pm to VolSquatch
There is no escalation risk. Putin isn’t going to attack the US over this.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:41 pm to notiger1997
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Is that the one where Russia has admitted they shite the missile down and the debris landed in the people?
The entire ATACMS being used to target civilians on the beach is clear propaganda. In what world would the Ukrainians use such a tactically important munition to target civilians given how limited the supply of them is?
The other thing is if that beach, given the density of people present, was targeted with multiple ATACMS you would have seen far more than 3 dead.
The last few days have seen a large propaganda push by the Russians and their mouthpieces. It is cyclical in nature and something has triggered the high tide.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:51 pm to doubleb
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Civilians get killed in war all the time. It’s very unfortunate. No one should ever be happy about it. But when Putin invaded Ukraine he knew it was bound to happen, and he did not care one but.
And the point goes whizzing by the bots heads as per usual. Theres a difference when it’s US weapons killing civilians of a nuclear armed country. Is it high? Of course not. But it is there.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:53 pm to ticklechain
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No offense, but is this video what your basing this on?
Yes, elsewhere on the intertubes, Ukraine released this video and claimed that this was the launch.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:56 pm to No Colors
He constantly tries to put down anything positive about Ukraine but is never critical of Russians. That makes him for Russia.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:59 pm to CitizenK
Oh shut the frick up already. I’ve literally called Putin a war criminal.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:05 pm to Chromdome35
shite adds up over time. And we don’t know who comes after Putin.
If there wasn’t any risk in it, why is the US handicapping what Ukraine can do with our weapons? Apparently actually military strategists see some risk in it.
If there wasn’t any risk in it, why is the US handicapping what Ukraine can do with our weapons? Apparently actually military strategists see some risk in it.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:45 pm to VolSquatch
The US has limited Ukraines use of US systems to strike targets inside Russia. The US has been publicly outspoken that Ukraine can use US weapons in Ukraine and Crimea. This occurred in Crimea on Ukrainian soil, there is no surprise to the Russians at all.
What is more plausible, that Ukraine used one of their very limited supply of ATACMS to kill 3 civilians on a beach, or that it was a spent Russian AA missile? Watch some videos of ATACMS strikes in the war and see if you think this looks like one of those.?
What is more plausible, that Ukraine used one of their very limited supply of ATACMS to kill 3 civilians on a beach, or that it was a spent Russian AA missile? Watch some videos of ATACMS strikes in the war and see if you think this looks like one of those.?
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:46 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:57 pm to VolSquatch
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US weapons killing civilians of a nuclear armed country
What are Russian citizens doing in Crimea? According to international law, it belongs to Ukraine. And there's a war raging. Seems risky on their part.
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Is it high? Of course not
I get it. Your position is that we should appease aggressors because it's risky to stand up to a bully.
It's also risky to let a bully keep having his way.
We just disagree on what to do. You're in the Neville Chamberlain camp.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:01 pm to No Colors
Just heard on BBC another terrorist operation happened in Russia targeting Orthodox churches and priest
ETA found a link
At least nine dead, 25 injured as gunmen attack places of worship in Russia’s Dagestan (CNN)
ETA found a link
At least nine dead, 25 injured as gunmen attack places of worship in Russia’s Dagestan (CNN)
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:21 pm to StormyMcMan
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Just heard on BBC another terrorist operation happened in Russia targeting Orthodox churches and priest
Russians are claiming it's an attack by Ukrainian agents but Russia has oppressed the population of Dagestan for centuries. Likely due the Russian Orthodox being FSB more than an attack against religion
Does Chechnya remove troops the Ukrainian theatre to go to Dagestan?.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:26 pm to CitizenK
It's ISIS, or a copycat. No, really. It's them, because the north Caucasus is full of wahabbi freaks, and Tajikistan is not that far away.
It's not Ukraine, or the CIA, or an FSB false flag to crack down on Dagestan, or any other crazy theory. It's the blindingly obvious thing.
It's not Ukraine, or the CIA, or an FSB false flag to crack down on Dagestan, or any other crazy theory. It's the blindingly obvious thing.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:26 pm to VolSquatch
You're right. The nukes are being put up into position now. You better start heading to the bomb shelter. Get food, water, batteries, radios, and any belongings. Don't go out until the radio says so. Bring some ammo and a few guns too. Best cut all contact with the internet too.
Good luck.
Good luck.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:43 pm to GOP_Tiger
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It's ISIS, or a copycat. No, really. It's them, because the north Caucasus is full of wahabbi freaks, and Tajikistan is not that far away.
It's not Ukraine, or the CIA, or an FSB false flag to crack down on Dagestan, or any other crazy theory. It's the blindingly obvious thing.
Several firefights in parts of the oblast capitol and several other cities at the same time.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:43 pm to cwil1
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Get food, water, batteries, radios, and any belongings. Don't go out until the radio says so. Bring some ammo and a few guns too. Best cut all contact with the internet too.
That sounds like living in Kentucky
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:47 pm to No Colors
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I get it. Your position is that we should appease aggressors because it's risky to stand up to a bully. It's also risky to let a bully keep having his way. We just disagree on what to do. You're in the Neville Chamberlain camp.
I get it. Your position is that we should just give Ukraine all our money, weapons, and probably women. Abandon all selective engagement logic. Completely disregard the existence of nukes. Because hey, if Ukraine has all our shite anyway who really cares if they nuke us, right? So long as Zelensky can make “Love in the Big City 4” at the end of this, it’s a win.
Ukraine is all that matters to you, and that’s fine. Russia and Ukraine can both go frick themselves as far as I’m concerned
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:51 pm to cwil1
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You're right. The nukes are being put up into position now. You better start heading to the bomb shelter. Get food, water, batteries, radios, and any belongings. Don't go out until the radio says so. Bring some ammo and a few guns too. Best cut all contact with the internet too.
Being mostly on mobile launchers they need a day to set up. We know when they are setting up to launch a day ahead of time.
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