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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:42 am to ticklechain
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:42 am to ticklechain
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One of his buddies was diagnosed with ovarian cancer.
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:42 am to Chromdome35
Yup, you read that correctly.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:05 pm to cwil1
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Donald Trump, who campaigned by praising Putin for invading Crimea and took up the call to end sanctions against Russia as a primary foreign policy goal, personally fed pro-Kremlin narratives, including unsupported, self-serving conspiracy theories that have their origin with Russian intelligence. One element of the first impeachment was Trump’s attempt to pressure President Zelensky into announcing an investigation into whether it was Ukraine, not Russia, that hacked the DNC and disseminated emails embarrassing to the Clinton campaign prior to the 2016 election.
Trump will increasingly make statements about not supporting Ukraine if he wins, and pulling the US out of NATO (I know he's not supposed to just be able to break the Treaty, but for all we see from the 2025 Project he will just do it and see who can stop or reverse it).
Moscow Marjorie Traitor Greene has never even sugar-coated it.
I don't see how some of you can convince yourselves otherwise.
And it's not "Trump Derangement Syndrome" when your pointing out things he actually does and says... unlike spouting conspiracy theories you can't prove about his opponent at every turn.
America... we'll pick what we deserve, I guess.
The weakening of NATO will mean trouble... without the US holding back Poland this just might flare up into a continent-wide War...
and I don't really put it past whatever Trump's fixation on Putin is that we might find our country backing the Russia/Iran/North Korea axis...
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:12 pm to Lee B
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Trump will increasingly make statements about not supporting Ukraine if he wins, and pulling the US out of NATO (I know he's not supposed to just be able to break the Treaty, but for all we see from the 2025 Project he will just do it and see who can stop or reverse it).
Moscow Marjorie Traitor Greene has never even sugar-coated it.
I don't see how some of you can convince yourselves otherwise.
And it's not "Trump Derangement Syndrome" when your pointing out things he actually does and says... unlike spouting conspiracy theories you can't prove about his opponent at every turn.
Yeah, the people pointing out that "Trump supported the $60b aid package! He will continue supporting Ukraine!" don't get it.
As of today I would be very surprised if aid weren't significantly reduced if not eliminated under Trump.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:17 pm to ticklechain
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Yup, you read that correctly.
A good friend (RIP) depended on the VA as his health insurance and health care provider. For a hip replacement they put him on a waiting list for over a year and provided him with Fentanyl patches and oxycontin to take as needed for the entire waiting period. When he went in for the hip joint replacement, it was 3 days early to detox from the pain meds. After the operation no pain med could alleviate the pain so they strapped him down and he blacked out of 3 days from that pain.
So basically they haven't progressed that far in treatment when he was in Vietnam which he had returned from without so much as a scratch as an equipment operator building FOBs
He died from an infection after back surgery a decade later.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:30 pm to CitizenK
200k is current annual production, the DPRK could produce up to 6 million rounds a year if they went all in.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:37 pm to Lima Whiskey
the old "guns" or "butter" adage....NK would rather make ammo then feed its populace.....
...but just how great is their QC on making said rounds, and these are all "dumb" munitions..... not guided.
...but just how great is their QC on making said rounds, and these are all "dumb" munitions..... not guided.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:47 pm to tigeraddict
There were some reports of unexploded North Korea shells. I believe some pictures were shared on twitter. Yep, found it.
Ukraine military official: half of all North Korean shells are duds
North Korean artillery shells cannot be accurately aimed, South Korean military expert says.
LINK
Ukraine military official: half of all North Korean shells are duds
North Korean artillery shells cannot be accurately aimed, South Korean military expert says.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:03 pm to cwil1
Random check of ammunition supplied to russia by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea showcases serious problems, with even lead wires getting stolen at North Korean plants
Dissatisfied With Quality and Quantity of North Korean Artillery Shells, russians Complain - Defense Express
Dissatisfied With Quality and Quantity of North Korean Artillery Shells, russians Complain - Defense Express
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:13 pm to cypher
White House confirms Ukraine to get priority on air defense missile deliveries
by Chris York and The Kyiv Independent news desk June 20, 2024 7:23 PM
The U.S. is to prioritize deliveries of air defense missiles to Ukraine over orders from other countries, National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said on June 20.
"The United States government has made the difficult but necessary decision to reprioritize near-term planned deliveries of foreign military sales to other countries, particularly Patriot and NASAMS missiles, to go to Ukraine instead," he said in comments reported by AFP.
Comments from U.S. President Joe Biden earlier this month strongly suggested such a move was on the table.
"We let it be known to those countries that are expecting from us air defense systems in the future that they're going to have to wait," Biden said after signing a 10-year security deal with President Volodymyr Zelensky at the Group of Seven (G7) summit in Italy on June 13.
"Everything we have is going to go to Ukraine until their needs are met. And then we will make good on the commitments we made to other countries."
In a post on social media on June 20, Zelensky thanked President Biden for the latest decision.
"The partnership between Ukraine and the United States is strong and unwavering. Together, we are protecting life against terror and aggression," he said.
by Chris York and The Kyiv Independent news desk June 20, 2024 7:23 PM
The U.S. is to prioritize deliveries of air defense missiles to Ukraine over orders from other countries, National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said on June 20.
"The United States government has made the difficult but necessary decision to reprioritize near-term planned deliveries of foreign military sales to other countries, particularly Patriot and NASAMS missiles, to go to Ukraine instead," he said in comments reported by AFP.
Comments from U.S. President Joe Biden earlier this month strongly suggested such a move was on the table.
"We let it be known to those countries that are expecting from us air defense systems in the future that they're going to have to wait," Biden said after signing a 10-year security deal with President Volodymyr Zelensky at the Group of Seven (G7) summit in Italy on June 13.
"Everything we have is going to go to Ukraine until their needs are met. And then we will make good on the commitments we made to other countries."
In a post on social media on June 20, Zelensky thanked President Biden for the latest decision.
"The partnership between Ukraine and the United States is strong and unwavering. Together, we are protecting life against terror and aggression," he said.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:19 pm to Lee B
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Trump will increasingly make statements about not supporting Ukraine if he wins, and pulling the US out of NATO (I know he's not supposed to just be able to break the Treaty, but for all we see from the 2025 Project he will just do it and see who can stop or reverse it).
Moscow Marjorie Traitor Greene has never even sugar-coated it.
I don't see how some of you can convince yourselves otherwise.
And it's not "Trump Derangement Syndrome" when your pointing out things he actually does and says... unlike spouting conspiracy theories you can't prove about his opponent at every turn.
America... we'll pick what we deserve, I guess.
The weakening of NATO will mean trouble... without the US holding back Poland this just might flare up into a continent-wide War...
and I don't really put it past whatever Trump's fixation on Putin is that we might find our country backing the Russia/Iran/North Korea axis...
Reeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!ll
Is Biden's treasonous border policies a conspiracy theory?
Is Biden's Afghanistan debacle a conspiracy theory?
Is Biden's Middle East policy disasters a conspiracy theory?
is Biden's Inflation a conspiracy theory?
Is Biden's mental decline a conspiracy theory?
Is Bidenomics a conspiracy theory?
Is the world being on fire under Biden a conspiracy theory?
Some of you Biden boys on here care way more about defending Ukraine's borders than you do your own country.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:27 pm to Lima Whiskey
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South Korea produces around 200k rounds of 155mm a year. The DPRK can produce around 3.2 million rounds a year of 152mm.
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200k is current annual production, the DPRK could produce up to 6 million rounds a year if they went all in.
So number doubled on production capacity in mere minutes. North Korea is best Korea
And still no source
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:34 pm to AU86
Idk who's more annoying. Leftists who think chopping their nuts off makes them a woman. Or Trumpists who constantly rail on about ''Hunter Biden''. And the ''deep state''.
Yes, Biden sucks. But not everyone who's against some of the things you support. Is a ''liberal''. Just a free-thinking individual.
Yes, Biden sucks. But not everyone who's against some of the things you support. Is a ''liberal''. Just a free-thinking individual.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:47 pm to VolSquatch
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You know there are a lot of different things we could spend the money on.... right?
Certainly. But what would it accomplish? We just authorized spending 100s of billions on infrastructure and it gets diluted so much that we are lucky to see real progress.
Our Federal government is proving over and over that they can not improve our quality of life through spending.
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Invest more in the VA. Rebuild infrastructure. Rebuild our strategic reserves. Invest in our own military. Invest in national or regional railways. Build a wall on the southern border and then reinforce that wall with technology. Those are hard "assets" where we would literally see the returns on our money.
Is a lack of spending the reason our veterans get poor healthcare? We just passed a trillion dollar infrastructure bill. Rebuild our reserves fine. How will that improve the quality of life?
Spend more on the military. Sure, and backing Ukraine is weakening a huge enemy while we do not lose our soldiers.
The infrastructure bill invested in our railways already, can’t you see all the progress? Not.
Biden won’t build the wall. Forget about that. Lack of money is not why we have no wall. The government does not want to build one.
You are all screwed up. Anyone that thinks the government just needs more money, and all our problems would get fixed isn’t paying attention,
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:52 pm to Lima Whiskey
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200k is current annual production, the DPRK could produce up to 6 million rounds a year if they went all in.
That’s all?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:57 pm to cwil1
I didn't vote for Trump in the primary. But I will damn well support him against Biden.
If you vote for Biden and his hard left progressive policies what does that make you?
Do you support his border policies?
Do you support his foreign policy?
Has his economic policies been successful?
What about his other hard left progressive domestic policies?
Name one thing that Biden has been successful at? One thing that he has supported or done that helped this nation.
If you vote for Biden and his hard left progressive policies what does that make you?
Do you support his border policies?
Do you support his foreign policy?
Has his economic policies been successful?
What about his other hard left progressive domestic policies?
Name one thing that Biden has been successful at? One thing that he has supported or done that helped this nation.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:02 pm to AU86
I'm not a leftist. Or a Biden supporter. I'm more of a minarchist/libertarian.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:11 pm to doubleb
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Anyone that thinks the government just needs more money, and all our problems would get fixed isn’t paying attention,
I'm not saying they WOULD be, I'm saying they SHOULD be. We SHOULD reprioritize spending and make cuts. I don't think we WILL.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:17 pm to doubleb
South Korea produces 200k rounds annually
North Korea produces around 3 million right now, and could manufacture up to 6 million.
North Korea produces around 3 million right now, and could manufacture up to 6 million.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:26 pm to cwil1
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Idk who's more annoying. Leftists who think chopping their nuts off makes them a woman. Or Trumpists who constantly rail on about ''Hunter Biden''. And the ''deep state''.
Trump has stated several times in interviews that he would give Ukraine more weapons than it could handle. He also praised the recent aid bill when it was passed. It would have not passed if he had actually been against it.
What he is doing is politically threading the needle for the campaign. What he'll do after elected, no one actually knows but to let Ukraine fall under his watch will taint his name forever and he knows that.
As for the "Deep State" it does exist. It is nothing more than the massive parasitic bureaucracy of the alphabet soup of Federal agencies. What some don't seem to get is how much time the staff of a Senator or Representative spend with constituent services for individuals and companies to resolve bullshite issues with these bureaucrats. They don't even like to make a decision one way or another on an individual request for guidance. In the late 1980s Monsanto was shocked that I got a verbal decision and in writing (fax) on shipping of two pieces of equipment to be reused with the same chemicals as to level of cleanliness so they wouldn't have issues in the 1 day transit via truck after being cleaned a year earlier. They had been unable to get any answer to their questions. I was lucky is all, I must have reached the only person in the agency who actually did his job.
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