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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/19/24 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 6:25 pm to
Putin going to have to HAWK TUAH Xi now
Posted by TigersSEC2010
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:14 pm to
I would think Xi knows he will own Putin. Putin is going to be HAWK TUAHing every shitty world leader now while begging for help.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 7:16 pm
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:43 pm to
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have to wonder what China thinks about all this


China loves a weak Russia. They already have hundreds of thousands of citizens working in Siberia in Russian mines, sawmills, factories, energy transfer stations, and logistics hubs.

Now that the Russian army has vacated, they'll slowly move in their own security forces to "protect their citizens and business interests".

Of course those guys will never leave. And they'll be raping Siberia of all of its resources within a decade.

China won't have to invade Russia. They'll just set up shop and take what they want. There won't be anyone to stop them
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:48 pm to
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But Ukraine is almost out of ammo.


No, no, no....they're out of men. Cause 8 to 1 casualties like Tucker said.

And Zhelensky is posting his videos from a CIA bunker in Poland.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:15 pm to
Have y'all seen the new documentary on the war?



Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:32 pm to
China loves a weak Russia. China probably does not love a nuclear NK swinging its dick around.

Now that I think about this more, giving NK tech in exchange for support seems as much of a “frick you” to China as it is us.

China hasn’t helped Russia nearly as much as they wanted/expected.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 8:34 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:09 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un signed a comprehensive strategic partnership agreement in Pyongyang on June 19, likely aimed in part to use military-technical cooperation with North Korea as a threat against the West to discourage further support for Ukraine. Russian and North Korea largely framed the agreement as evidence of their mutual support as part of a common struggle against the West and signaled that they share a goal to challenge the West and current world order.

Putin is pursuing a coalition of friendly states with historically warm ties to the Soviet Union to act as an alternative to the West and current world order.

Russian government officials announced their intention on June 19 to suspend Russia's participation in the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe's Parliamentary Assembly (OSCE PA).

The Russian military command continues to endorse a culture of permissiveness towards war crimes perpetrated by subordinates on the battlefield in Ukraine.

The Russian government is attempting to deflect responsibility for well-documented Russian violations of international law regarding Russia's treatment of Ukrainian children by accusing the Ukrainian Armed Forces and other security structures of committing "crimes" against children.

Air traffic control (ATC) communications from international airspace over the northeastern Atlantic Ocean appear to show the first confirmed instance of GPS jamming on commercial trans-Atlantic routes.

Ukrainian forces recaptured positions near Starytsya and Russian forces recently advanced near Chasiv Yar and Donetsk City and in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast.

Finnish outlet Yle, citing satellite imagery and Finnish intelligence sources, reported on June 19 that the Russian military has deployed roughly 80 percent of its equipment and personnel based near the Russian-Finnish border to support its invasion of Ukraine.

 


Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:19 pm to
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Lima, Sir Winston, and several politards got hard ons reading this and seeing that photo.


Nah they just laugh at that relentlessly inane buffoon while he burns down a fictitious opponent only he and a select gaggle of loons have created in their tiny deluded minds.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:39 pm to
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Air traffic control (ATC) communications from international airspace over the northeastern Atlantic Ocean appear to show the first confirmed instance of GPS jamming on commercial trans-Atlantic routes.

That's kinda fricked up.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:43 am to
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Lima, Sir Winston, and several politards got hard ons reading this and seeing that photo.


Mate at least we are both MAGA AF even though we disagree with how that translates to the Russia / Ukraine issue.
Posted by cwil1
Member since Oct 2023
907 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 3:21 am to
LINK


Russian military commanders, in cooperation with the Kremlin propaganda campaign, delayed withdrawal from Kherson to prevent giving Democrats a positive takeaway on Ukraine prior to the 2022 midterms, according to intelligence reported by the CIA, FBI, NSA, Homeland Security and the State Department between June and December of 2022.

Russian forces, surrounded on three sides with the Dnipro River at their back, were allowed to take heavy casualties for months after the bridges by which they were supplied were destroyed by HIMARS missles.

Russia publicly announced its withdrawal from Kherson on November 9 - the day after the November 8 election. The casualties were sustained solely for the purposes of influencing public opinion in the US, targeting Republicans to reduce support for Ukraine. The Russian narrative was enthusiastically picked up by political and media supporters of Donald Trump.

Fox News repeated a string of Kremlin talking points intended to undermine US support for the defense of Ukraine from the continued Russian invasion, going so far as to cast Ukraine as the aggressor.

US Arms Giant Northrop Grumman to Produce Medium Caliber Ammo in Ukraine
OTHER TOPICS OF INTEREST
US Arms Giant Northrop Grumman to Produce Medium Caliber Ammo in Ukraine?
This is the first major American corporation to announce plans to manufacture arms in Ukraine.
Among Republican politicians, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia has led the way in normalizing extremist pro-Russian propaganda, making a public appearance at a pro-Putin rally and calling the defense of Ukraine a corrupt scheme. She citied a Russian propaganda outlet that was sanctioned by the US Treasury Department over alleged interference in the 2020 presidential elections as her source.

On the US Senate side, Tommy Tuberville of Alabama blames Democrats, claiming Democrats “created” the war in Ukraine - exactly parroting the Kremlin influence operation, and has gone so far as to green-light a Russian takeover of Ukraine, opining against all contrary evidence that he sees no risk of further Russian aggression once Ukraine is subdued.

Donald Trump, who campaigned by praising Putin for invading Crimea and took up the call to end sanctions against Russia as a primary foreign policy goal, personally fed pro-Kremlin narratives, including unsupported, self-serving conspiracy theories that have their origin with Russian intelligence. One element of the first impeachment was Trump’s attempt to pressure President Zelensky into announcing an investigation into whether it was Ukraine, not Russia, that hacked the DNC and disseminated emails embarrassing to the Clinton campaign prior to the 2016 election.

According to the National Intelligence Council, Russian intelligence specifically targeted the MAGA audience, catering to the same audience carefully conditioned to be receptive to the message. The report cites the focus before the 2022 election on asking why the US should help Ukraine instead of solving social and domestic problems?


Posted by cwil1
Member since Oct 2023
907 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:13 am to
Here's the full report

LINK


Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38507 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:23 am to
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Air traffic control (ATC) communications from international airspace over the northeastern Atlantic Ocean appear to show the first confirmed instance of GPS jamming on commercial trans-Atlantic routes.


Russia wasn't taught a lesson after its first incident with civilian air traffic several years ago.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5777 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:45 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 20 June 2024

Throughout June 2024 the Russian Air Force maintained pressure against the front-line in Ukraine with tactical aviation while One Way Attack drones continue to strike against deeper infrastructure and military related targets. However, between 12 and 18 June, Russian Long-Range Aviation switched the focus of its cruise missile strikes to target Ukrainian Air Bases, almost certainly borne out of frustration of continued Ukrainian air strike successes whilst also likely highlighting Russia's concerns about the future employment of F-16 aircraft.

A series of coordinated Ukrainian attacks against targets in Crimea resulted in the destruction of critical elements of Russian SA-20 and SA-21 surface to air missile systems. These successes highlight Russia's struggle to defend its assets in Crimea, despite their pride and significant economic outlay on Air Defence. While it is likely that Russia can replace systems quickly, continued attrition will likely force Russia to draw on equipment from other areas, as it has done previously, if it wishes to maintain its density of Air Defence coverage. Alternatively, Russia may be forced to accept a reduction in capability, placing its forces on Crimea at increased risk.

Further successful Ukrainian attacks against Russian airfields conducting strike operations, such as Mozdok, Akhtubinsk and more recently Morozovsk has highly likely forced Russia to maintain its policy of dispersing aircraft basing further from the front-line. This will almost certainly result in increased airframe and aircrew fatigue as sortie times increase. It is possible that the accidental loss of a Su-34 FULLBACK fighter bomber in the North Ossetia region of southern Russia on 12 June was linked to this.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5777 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:52 am to
Ukraine's Security Service drones strike fuel depots in Russia's Adygea

VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — Thursday, 20 June 2024, 11:26

Drones of the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU) struck a fuel and lubricants depot of Tambovnafteprodukt and a petroleum base of LLC LUKOIL-Yugnefteprodukt in the settlement of Enem, Republic of Adygea, Russia, on the night of 19-20 June.

Source: an Ukrainska Pravda source in the SSU

Details: The source said these facilities processed and stored raw materials and finished products, which were later used for the needs of the Russian army. After a series of drone strikes by the SSU on both facilities, fires broke out.

LINK
Posted by Warfox
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 5:16 am to
quote:

According to the National Intelligence Council, Russian intelligence specifically targeted the MAGA audience, catering to the same audience carefully conditioned to be receptive to the message. The report cites the focus before the 2022 election on asking why the US should help Ukraine instead of solving social and domestic problems?


RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!

Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
21086 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 5:17 am to
Here's a good link with multiple videos of last night's strikes on two Russian oil depots:

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Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 5:18 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21086 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 5:26 am to
It's well past time for South Korea to step up to the plate. They haven't wanted to escalate with the Norks, and that's done nothing except encourage Kim.

Their self-deterrance is almost as bad as Biden's.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21086 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 5:31 am to
Financial Times


US to redirect Patriot air defence orders to Ukraine

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The US government is set to halt all open orders for Patriot air defence systems and interceptor missiles until Ukraine has enough to defend itself from Russia’s air attacks. Three people with knowledge of the decision said the move would be announced on Thursday, after President Joe Biden said last week in Italy that he had secured commitments for the delivery of additional air defence systems to Ukraine. These would include Patriot missile batteries for which Kyiv has been clamouring after Russia escalated missile and drone attacks on its power plants.
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The US announcement on Thursday will codify Biden’s commitment to Kyiv and ensure that Ukraine gets the Patriot systems it needs to protect its cities and critical infrastructure, two of the people with knowledge of the decision told the Financial Times. Poland, Romania and Germany are among the European nations with open orders for Patriot systems still to be delivered. Spain also has an open order for Patriot launchers, while a coalition of Nato states in January placed an order for 1,000 Patriot missiles.


Edit: Some bad reporting here by the FT. Clarification:

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