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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/16/24 at 9:33 am to Lee B
Posted on 6/16/24 at 9:33 am to Lee B
Re: Armenia (I'd say relevant to Russia and the region and possibly the Ukrainian conflict) for those interested... if not kindly skip
CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT (12/27/23): "Defeated Armenia Looks to a New, Post-Russia Foreign Policy"
Armenia is on the brink of formulating a new foreign policy. Moscow’s silent acquiescence during September’s one-day war, in which Azerbaijan seized the long-disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh, prompting the flight of all Karabakh Armenians, means most Armenians no longer see Russia as an ally, never mind a security guarantor. Armenia is likely to both turn to the West and make overtures toward other major powers, particularly India and Iran.
CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT (12/27/23): "Defeated Armenia Looks to a New, Post-Russia Foreign Policy"
Armenia is on the brink of formulating a new foreign policy. Moscow’s silent acquiescence during September’s one-day war, in which Azerbaijan seized the long-disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh, prompting the flight of all Karabakh Armenians, means most Armenians no longer see Russia as an ally, never mind a security guarantor. Armenia is likely to both turn to the West and make overtures toward other major powers, particularly India and Iran.
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 9:42 am to CitizenK
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Some of the right-wing parties that gained seats in Europe are in favor of ending support for Ukraine. Putin's "peace plan" gives them ammunition to pressure domestic politics to force a Ukrainian surrender.
the recent elections amount to not that much either way, with no real power
Yeah... EU Parliamentary elections are pretty much always a protest vote. That's why Macron used it as an excuse to hold a snap election, because voter turn out in EU elections is not representative and it usually. scares the centrists to get out to make sure one of the fringes does not gain power domestically... so he's gambling that he will win seats. But even if he doesn't and Le Pen's party manages to gain real power, he still serves the rest of his term handling a lot of stuff and RN gets to be the "bad cop" that enacts policies people will probably be angry about by the time the next election rolls around... like stopping immigration, which the public wants but they don't want. to be tagged as being people who want it, because it isn't in the "Cosmopolitan French" self-image they have.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 10:51 am to CitizenK
quote:If we had the time, it would be interesting to watch a lying contest pitting a Greek Chief Mate on an oil tanker with a Russian refinery loss control officer.
Decades ago when I was involved in shipping, Greeks always lied even when telling the truth was beneficial to them
If we had the time...
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:06 am to doubleb
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Putin was never going to sign it.
He was an absolutely going to sign it. He will always take the cheapest negotiated option even if it means getting a lot less than he wanted.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:28 am to Lima Whiskey
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He will always take the cheapest negotiated option even if it means getting a lot less than he wanted.
Sure he would have
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:33 am to Lima Whiskey
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He was an absolutely going to sign it. He will always take the cheapest negotiated option even if it means getting a lot less than he wanted.
Reuters
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PARIS, Sept 14 (Reuters) - Vladimir Putin's chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia's demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, opens new tab, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:55 pm to doubleb
Lima pretty much confirming he is a Russian puppet with pushing that narrative, but he will be embraced by the poliboard because they hate America.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 1:12 pm to SirWinston
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I dislike all of you and if WWIII starts I genuinely hope that someone you care for gets sent to Ukraine.
frick off and stop posting here, you seem mentally imbalanced
Posted on 6/16/24 at 1:53 pm to jeffsdad
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Oil prices ain’t going anywhere just before an election
Or any other time... OPEC has done Russia a favor a couple of times already but pulling back production and causing prices to rise, intentionally or not
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:05 pm to Lee B
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frick off and stop posting here, you seem mentally imbalanced
He freely admits as such.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:17 pm to jeffsdad
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Oil prices ain’t going anywhere just before an election
Every oil producer but Saudia Arabia lost money in 2020 on every barrel of oil sold during at least the first half of the year.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:59 pm to CitizenK
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Oil prices ain’t going anywhere just before an election
Every oil producer but Saudia Arabia lost money in 2020 on every barrel of oil sold during at least the first half of the year.
2020 was an election year, and the most volatile year in the history of oil trading.
What does international crude oil pricing have to do with the US election cycle?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:04 pm to Lima Whiskey
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He was an absolutely going to sign it.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:35 pm to Obtuse1
No. I called him out on it in that thread. He also apparently doesn’t know how to read the BBC/Mediazona article.
The website UA losses calculates 50k deaths and uses identifiable data, much like the BBC/Mediazona collect their data. The problem with the 500k number is that the scale of that death toll could not be hidden. Why he insists on being such a committed dumbass despite the fact that he’s also been wrong with every major prognostication is beyond me.
The website UA losses calculates 50k deaths and uses identifiable data, much like the BBC/Mediazona collect their data. The problem with the 500k number is that the scale of that death toll could not be hidden. Why he insists on being such a committed dumbass despite the fact that he’s also been wrong with every major prognostication is beyond me.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:43 pm to crazy4lsu
He's been called out ITT for the same number a few weeks back. All things being equal, if Russia truly had a 1:5 loss ratio and Ukraine truly had 500 KIA it makes the Russian military look even more inept than they already have looked
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:06 pm to StormyMcMan
According to the Poli Board, Ukraine doesn't have a soldier left alive under the age of 70....
OK! So I guess Russia will be rolling into Kiev this summer?
Nah....Russia never wanted Kiev. All just a feint. It's all about taking a fee rubble piles in the Donbas
OK! So I guess Russia will be rolling into Kiev this summer?
Nah....Russia never wanted Kiev. All just a feint. It's all about taking a fee rubble piles in the Donbas
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:41 pm to crazy4lsu
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Why he insists on being such a committed dumbass despite the fact that he’s also been wrong with every major prognostication is beyond me.
Seriously, why waste any time wondering about Lima Whisky posts? They are completely indistinguishable from Kremlin talking points. I'm serious, 100% the same. So who cares who the hell he is? It doesn't matter, really. I just don't give them any weight, at all. Why would anyone?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:53 pm to StormyMcMan
Comparing loss ratios really depends on whether or not you count the 17k dead Wagner prisoners, as getting rid of them is 17k fewer people than the Russian prison system has to feed and guard.
You also have to count the LPR and DPR folks -- it's not straightforward.
But if you count all of them then a realistic ratio is about 7 Russians to 4 Ukrainians, IMO. During the Ukrainian offensive last year, the ratio was often close to one to one, and Ukraine suffered very high losses in the summer of 2022, when Russia was firing some 60k shells per day in taking Severodonetsk and Lysychansk. But other battles have been absolute bloodbaths for Russia -- like the current Kharkiv offensive.
You also have to count the LPR and DPR folks -- it's not straightforward.
But if you count all of them then a realistic ratio is about 7 Russians to 4 Ukrainians, IMO. During the Ukrainian offensive last year, the ratio was often close to one to one, and Ukraine suffered very high losses in the summer of 2022, when Russia was firing some 60k shells per day in taking Severodonetsk and Lysychansk. But other battles have been absolute bloodbaths for Russia -- like the current Kharkiv offensive.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:57 pm to Tigris
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Seriously, why waste any time wondering about Lima Whisky posts? They are completely indistinguishable from Kremlin talking points. I'm serious, 100% the same. So who cares who the hell he is? It doesn't matter, really. I just don't give them any weight, at all. Why would anyone?
He is a neoconfederate, antivax moron who pretends he is part of some Southern gentry while also having terrible reasoning ability and almost no historical understanding. For some reason he takes Putin at his word too. He is impressive in his stupidity.
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