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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:47 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:47 am to VolSquatch
A reason no full scale invasion under Trump was that he personally told Putin he would bomb Moscow if Putin dared to do it. Yes, the US can easily do that without need of any nukes.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:48 am to VolSquatch
Do you know exactly what Trump’s position is?
I do not. He’s been very careful not to box himself in.
I know many believe if elected he won’t aid Ukraine. I know what he said about negotiations with Putin. I know behind the scenes he supposedly helped Johnson pass the aid bill.
Maybe in the debates we will get a more definite answer, but right now Trump is in a good spot.
Meanwhile Biden, who was initially thought to be tough on Russia is looking weaker and weaker. Not letting Ukraine strike back with American munitions inside Russia is not a good look. It brings back memories of Vietnam and prohibits Ukraine from retaliating against Russian forces killing Ukrainian civilians.
I do not. He’s been very careful not to box himself in.
I know many believe if elected he won’t aid Ukraine. I know what he said about negotiations with Putin. I know behind the scenes he supposedly helped Johnson pass the aid bill.
Maybe in the debates we will get a more definite answer, but right now Trump is in a good spot.
Meanwhile Biden, who was initially thought to be tough on Russia is looking weaker and weaker. Not letting Ukraine strike back with American munitions inside Russia is not a good look. It brings back memories of Vietnam and prohibits Ukraine from retaliating against Russian forces killing Ukrainian civilians.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:50 am to CitizenK
And again would he actually do it? Who knows.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:54 am to doubleb
Thats why I left it open ended by saying maybe he actually does mean it.
I do know that America First is at least his public tagline, and if he wins he won’t have to make decisions with a second term in mind so there is no reason for him *not* to go all in on America first in a second term.
But he also waffles on things fairly often, so who knows
I do know that America First is at least his public tagline, and if he wins he won’t have to make decisions with a second term in mind so there is no reason for him *not* to go all in on America first in a second term.
But he also waffles on things fairly often, so who knows
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:02 am to VolSquatch
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But he also waffles on things fairly often, so who knows
I can’t say he ever waffled on America first, but I’m guessing someone could scheme up a way that he did.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:05 am to doubleb
I would argue that supporting the latest aid bill is an example. But to be fair to him, he’s in election mode and I’m sure internal polling told him the people against aid are voting for him anyway, and the people for it are mixed. So he was trying to win more voters who aren’t sold on him already by supporting the aid package. Or maybe it was genuine and it also just made election sense, who really knows with him
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:15 am to doubleb
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He’s been very careful not to box himself in.
It's called threading the needle. That fact is that real Russians see that he always leaves an out for himself. Let's face it, should the war end, Russia is screwed economically for years. Just look at Gazprom's financial statement, also its lawsuits to obtain the $1.4 billion in insurance money for Nord Stream, where it saved at least double that by the 2 active, but not for almost a month before being blown.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:18 am to CitizenK
Anne Applebaum
@anneapplebaum
Russia's tactics are terrorist tactics, by any legal or moral definition. I wrote this in July 2022, but after the deliberate targeting of a crowded shopping center and a book warehouse and printing plant in Kharkiv in recent days, it has to be repeated.
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Russia’s War Against Ukraine Has Turned Into Terrorism
@anneapplebaum
Russia's tactics are terrorist tactics, by any legal or moral definition. I wrote this in July 2022, but after the deliberate targeting of a crowded shopping center and a book warehouse and printing plant in Kharkiv in recent days, it has to be repeated.
Atlantic gift article...
Russia’s War Against Ukraine Has Turned Into Terrorism
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:29 am to cypher
Somebody help me understand. With all the evil shite Russia has done to Ukrainian why are they having such a hard time getting their people to fight for their country? You’d think they would at least fight for their right to exist!
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:32 am to SLIPSHITE
You’re not going to get legit answer. Some in this thread will tell you Ukraine has to drag people to the front to get them to fight, others act like Ukraine has over a million willing and able bodies ready to go when called. The truth is somewhere in the middle. There is no incentive for Ukraine (or Russia) to actually tell the truth on their numbers
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:36 am to SLIPSHITE
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Somebody help me understand. With all the evil shite Russia has done to Ukrainian why are they having such a hard time getting their people to fight for their country? You’d think they would at least fight for their right to exist!
Someone is fighting because Russia is moving westward at a snail’s pace despite losing thousands of soldiers and bombing the crap out if Ukraine.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:43 am to SirWinston
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SirWinston
Still waiting on your reply to my question about how you claim that Ukraine's negotiating position is getting weaker by the day.
You've admitted that Putin is now offering better terms than two years ago ("proof that he's not the monster you claim").
So how is their position getting worse each day?
Or did you just say that our of frustration? Or ignorance? Or bias?
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:16 am to No Colors
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Or did you just say that our of frustration? Or ignorance? Or bias?
Or all of the above.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:39 am to doubleb
terrorism
New footage released from inside Kharkiv mall during Russian attack
May 26, 2024, 09:14 AM
Police have released a video captured inside the Epicenter mall in Kharkiv during a Russian aerial bomb attack on the shopping center on May 25.
The footage, posted by Serhiy Bolvinov, head of the Investigation Department of the National Police in Kharkiv Oblast, reveals the harrowing moments just before the attack occurred.
The surveillance camera footage shows six individuals in civilian clothes inside a section of the mall moments before the devastation.
Video
New footage released from inside Kharkiv mall during Russian attack
May 26, 2024, 09:14 AM
Police have released a video captured inside the Epicenter mall in Kharkiv during a Russian aerial bomb attack on the shopping center on May 25.
The footage, posted by Serhiy Bolvinov, head of the Investigation Department of the National Police in Kharkiv Oblast, reveals the harrowing moments just before the attack occurred.
The surveillance camera footage shows six individuals in civilian clothes inside a section of the mall moments before the devastation.
Video
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:16 pm to doubleb
Oh I think the ones fighting are fighting like hell. Judging by all the videos on line it’s hell over there.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:28 pm to VolSquatch
Could he do it, without Congress approving an Act of War?
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:30 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The "Down's soldier" video is a Russian parody. And old.
Well in fairness, SirWinston is parody too.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:31 pm to SLIPSHITE
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Oh I think the ones fighting are fighting like hell. Judging by all the videos on line it’s hell over there.
Yes they are and those people have earned our support.
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:49 pm to Lee B
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Could he do it, without Congress approving an Act of War?
If you haven’t realized by now, the president can do whatever he wants at any time, for any reason. Watergate would be a nothingburger in this day and age.
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