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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/20/24 at 2:48 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 4/20/24 at 2:48 pm to SirWinston
Melt
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 2:56 pm to SirWinston
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SirWinston
Shut the frick up tranny lover
Posted on 4/20/24 at 3:10 pm to SirWinston
If you hate pro war then you should hate Russia and Putin. They started all
this shite. Your father should have shot you into a towel instead of your mother.
this shite. Your father should have shot you into a towel instead of your mother.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 3:21 pm to ticklechain
It depends on what is actually in the aid package. I don’t think either side can win this war if i’m being 100% honest. There’s no fricking way Russia is taking over Ukraine and there’s no way I can see Ukraine pushing Russia out of all the area they occupy. It’s become a stagnant war. No question Ukraine will have far more tools to strike at Russia though. I expect a pretty good number of ATACMS and regular GMLRS rockets for HIMARS. There will be a couple Patriot batteries and PAC-2 missiles to restock Ukraine’s Patriots they already have. There will be a large number of artillery shells as well I expect lots of cluster shells. Then you’ll have JDAMS and AIM-9X or AIM-120 missiles for the F-16s coming I assume. This all eventually ends at the negotiating table though.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 3:30 pm to Jim Rockford
Yes, I believe everyone of importance that supported aid to Ukraine realized that between Trump and Johnson, Trump would not be approachable. So they focused their attention on Johnson. And it seems to have worked. Johnson met with Trump on April 12 in Florida and came out of that meeting ready to get the aid package passed.
Johnson had a rough start in the Speaker's position, which was not entirely his fault and it is a very tough job. But he seems to have righted the ship now. He certainly has gained a lot of support and respect in DC over the last two weeks.
Johnson had a rough start in the Speaker's position, which was not entirely his fault and it is a very tough job. But he seems to have righted the ship now. He certainly has gained a lot of support and respect in DC over the last two weeks.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:05 pm to Jim Rockford
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Johnson's sounded very statesmanlike the other day. I wish they had passed this months ago but apparently something or someone finally convinced him Russia is a threat to world peace and stability.
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Jim Rockford
You should enlist.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:10 pm to SirWinston
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Just stopping in to say this and to say frick Mike Johnson - may he rot.
LOLOL. He actually believes in American greatness, that America should be the leader of the free world.
You hate him because you hate America and root for its enemies.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:15 pm to SirWinston
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SirWinston
The collective West won today. The US, EU, and its allies.
They're fighting against a consortium of communist and socialists dictators including Russia, North Korea, Iran, Cuba, and Brlarus.
Sucks to be on the wrong side of history
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:26 pm to LSUPilot07
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there’s no way I can see Ukraine pushing Russia out of all the area they occupy.
Crimea is still the key for Ukraine to get the best result. The new delivery of long-range ATACMS and the summer deployment of F-16s gives Ukraine the ability to threaten all Russian military installations on the peninsula. The destruction of Russian ships in the Black Sea makes Russian logistics challenging. If Ukraine can isolate Crimea, then Russia will back off its maximalist goals.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:32 pm to StayStrapped
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You should enlist.
Already done my time. How about you?
ETA as history has proven on several occasions, helping countries defend themselves against aggression keeps small wars from blowing up into big wars that we have to fight. A lesson that evidently has to be relearned over and over again.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:37 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The destruction of Russian ships in the Black Sea makes Russian logistics challenging
They just drive everything in right now.
From November of 23
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Yevgeny Balitsky, Moscow's appointed head of the occupied Zaporizhzhia region in southeastern Ukraine, told reporters Monday that the new railway has begun near the city of Donetsk and will run from Yakymivka, a settlement in Zaporizhzhia, to Rostov, according to the Russian state-owned outlet RIA Novosti. "By building a railway line...we will solve the problems of the military," Balitsky said.
It’s supposed to be finished by the end of summer.
LINK
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:49 pm to LSUPilot07
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It depends on what is actually in the aid package. I don’t think either side can win this war if i’m being 100% honest. There’s no fricking way Russia is taking over Ukraine and there’s no way I can see Ukraine pushing Russia out of all the area they occupy. It’s become a stagnant war. No question Ukraine will have far more tools to strike at Russia though. I expect a pretty good number of ATACMS and regular GMLRS rockets for HIMARS. There will be a couple Patriot batteries and PAC-2 missiles to restock Ukraine’s Patriots they already have. There will be a large number of artillery shells as well I expect lots of cluster shells. Then you’ll have JDAMS and AIM-9X or AIM-120 missiles for the F-16s coming I assume. This all eventually ends at the negotiating table though.
If we were lead by someone with a clue, among other things, those F-16s with contractor pilots and maintenance crews would have been there a couple of years ago and in sufficient numbers to make a difference.
Negotiation would likely be to offer the Russian held parts of Ukraine some limited state-like autonomy within Ukraine governance. Might let Russia save face. A demilitarized Crimea might work with limited independence too.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:58 pm to Lima Whiskey
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It’s supposed to be finished by the end of summer.
And there’s no way the Ukes could blow it up?
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:59 pm to GOP_Tiger
MTG is a loose cannon on the deck.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 5:02 pm to Auburn1968
Will Russia speed up the timing of their offense in order to beat the aid from coming in and making a bigger difference?
I’m watching for that.
I’m watching for that.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 5:05 pm to doubleb
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Will Russia speed up the timing of their offense in order to beat the aid from coming in and making a bigger difference?
I’m watching for that.
Not sure when the mud season is over, but hope the munitions get to Ukraine before it ends.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:33 pm to Jim Rockford
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ETA as history has proven on several occasions, helping countries defend themselves against aggression keeps small wars from blowing up into big wars that we have to fight
Name a few
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:35 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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He certainly has gained a lot of support and respect in DC over the last two weeks.
And all it took was completely selling out and lining everyone else’s pockets. Bravo, sir
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:49 pm to VolSquatch
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Name a few
I’ll name a big one WWIII.
Standing up to despots and rogue nations since 1945 has prevented that.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:55 pm to VolSquatch
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And all it took was completely selling out and lining everyone else’s pockets. Bravo, sir
"The decision of the US House of Representatives to pass a bill to help Ukraine will further enrich the US and further ruin Ukraine," Kremlin spokesperson Dmitri Peskov said in a first response.
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