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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:22 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:22 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Last night I almost asked him to expound on that heritage he seemed so proud of in that post, but was too tired to waste the energy. You gotta give him credit, as soon as you think he’s hit the bottom he still keeps digging.
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Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:32 am to VolSquatch
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He is the Republican speaker of the house. Support for Ukraine aid nationwide is only around 50%, much lower than that among republicans. As speaker he is supposed to guide policy to be in line with what the voters want. This is especially true in the House.
What did he get in return to sell out? Obviously, MTG is either stark raving looney tunes or on Putin's payroll. FTR, he did not break with Trump's stance.
FTR, when the Southern Baptist Convention supported aide for Ukraine, due Russian persecution of not just Baptists but all evangelicals in occupied territories it's all over but the crying for the Putinistas holding up funding.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:37 am to ColtRange
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It's wild that people think $14 billion or whatever Ukraine is getting in military aid is actually going to stop Russia. Unless it includes about 500,000 trained soldiers, it's not going to make any meaningful difference in the outcome.
It’s ~$55,000,000,000.00 worth of military assistance, in the form of artillery, missiles, drones, IFVs, tanks, planes, cars, trucks, etc.
The best part? It’s old stuff. It costs less to give it away than keep it. The US could literally overwhelm Ukraine in old gear on this allotment alone.
And old US gear > new Russian gear. This is what the US could/should have done from the start.
Send old stuff, buy new stuff, watch Russians falter and fade. Win/win.
*oh, and as to needing 500k soldiers: Ukraine is on defense. As long as they have sufficient counter-batteries available, they can defend for years.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 8:39 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:02 am to RuLSU
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The best part? It’s old stuff. It costs less to give it away than keep it.
I can't believe morons are still falling for this.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:03 am to RuLSU
yet another russian talking point...
MFA Russia
@mfa_russia
Spokeswoman Maria #Zakharova on US Congress approving financial aid to Ukraine:
The US ruling elites are willing to flood the Kiev regime with weapons for it to continue to fight to the last Ukrainian
MFA Russia
@mfa_russia
Spokeswoman Maria #Zakharova on US Congress approving financial aid to Ukraine:
The US ruling elites are willing to flood the Kiev regime with weapons for it to continue to fight to the last Ukrainian
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:08 am to cypher
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yet another russian talking point
I mean I get you don't like it, but Russia can say it, to say it can serve their ends, AND it can also be true. This statement falls in that category.
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ruling elites are willing to flood the Kiev regime with weapons for it to continue to fight to the last Ukrainian
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:20 am to Turbeauxdog
yet another russian weighs in...
Medvedev wished civil war on the United States:
"It was the voting of joyful US bastards:
a) to continue the civil war of the separated people of our once united country;
b) to increase the number of victims of this war as much as possible.
We will, of course, win, despite the $61 billion of bloody dollars that will mostly go down the throat of their insatiable military production complex. Power and Truth are with us.
But considering the rusophobic decision that took place I can't help but wish the USA with all sincerity to dive into a new civil war themselves as quickly as possible. Which, I hope, will be very different from the war between North and South in the 19th century and will be waged using aircraft, tanks, artillery, MLRS, all types of missiles and other weapons. And which will finally lead to the inglorious collapse of the vile evil empire of the 21st century - the United States of America."
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Medvedev wished civil war on the United States:
"It was the voting of joyful US bastards:
a) to continue the civil war of the separated people of our once united country;
b) to increase the number of victims of this war as much as possible.
We will, of course, win, despite the $61 billion of bloody dollars that will mostly go down the throat of their insatiable military production complex. Power and Truth are with us.
But considering the rusophobic decision that took place I can't help but wish the USA with all sincerity to dive into a new civil war themselves as quickly as possible. Which, I hope, will be very different from the war between North and South in the 19th century and will be waged using aircraft, tanks, artillery, MLRS, all types of missiles and other weapons. And which will finally lead to the inglorious collapse of the vile evil empire of the 21st century - the United States of America."
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:56 am to cypher
And more recently, Johnson received a key intelligence briefing from CIA Director Bill Burns, who painted a picture of the dire situation on the battlefield in Ukraine and the global consequences of inaction, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the situation. The briefing left a lasting impression, and Johnson became increasingly convinced the fate of Western democracy was on his shoulders, sources close to him said.
Another factor that sources say weighed heavily on his decision-making: Johnson’s oldest son was recently accepted into the Naval Academy.
“To put it bluntly, I would rather send bullets to Ukraine than American boys. My son is going to begin in the Naval Academy this fall. This is a live-fire exercise for me as it is so many American families,” Johnson told reporters. “This is not a game, this is not a joke.
From a front page cnn article that details the decision making process Johnson went through.
Another factor that sources say weighed heavily on his decision-making: Johnson’s oldest son was recently accepted into the Naval Academy.
“To put it bluntly, I would rather send bullets to Ukraine than American boys. My son is going to begin in the Naval Academy this fall. This is a live-fire exercise for me as it is so many American families,” Johnson told reporters. “This is not a game, this is not a joke.
From a front page cnn article that details the decision making process Johnson went through.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 10:09 am to bigjoe1
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From a front page cnn article that details the decision making process Johnson went through.
from the same article...
Veteran GOP Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma also argued Johnson’s dependence on Democrats is the reality of governing in a razor-thin majority.
“This place is probably operating right now more like the founders thought it would,” Cole told reporters.
CNN
Posted on 4/21/24 at 10:40 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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The GOP is never building the wall, nor securing our border
A GOP president built more wall than ever before.
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They are chanting for Ukraine while our own country is being forced to allow millions of unknowns into the country.
The current president has all the tools necessary at his disposal to close the border. He won’t do it. The HOR alone can’t do it.
This election needs to be a referendum on border control; however, it’s becoming anything but that as foreign wars and high profile trials of one of the candidates take center stage.
We the people are getting screwed.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 10:42 am to RuLSU
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The best part? It’s old stuff. It costs less to give it away than keep it. The US could literally overwhelm Ukraine in old gear on this allotment alone.
And old US gear > new Russian gear. This is what the US could/should have done from the start.
Should have been giving Ukraine all of the gear and materiel they could handle from the beginning instead of trickle, trickle, trickling support.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:02 am to VolSquatch
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Which conflicts that we got involved in prevented WW3?
This was what was said:
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ETA as history has proven on several occasions, helping countries defend themselves against aggression keeps small wars from blowing up into big wars that we have to fight
We defended Wedtern Europe against Stalin a major aggressor. When the USSR collapsed we help fill the vacuum and welcomed Poland, Czecheoslovokia, Hungary, etc. to come in and get shelter under the NATO umbrella.
We helped Afghanistan milk the Russians and told tgem that they couldn’t just attack their neighbors at will causing larger and larger wars.
We kept Russian nukes out of Cuba.we help take out Che a Commie ally in CA. We ran Russian surrogates out of Grenada.
We backed Israel against Russian allies in the ME.
In Korea and Vietnam we fought Chinese and Russian surrogates.
All this demonstrated to Russia and China that we weren’t going to stand idly by and permit them to invade and conquer their neighbors as they and Germany did in WW2.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:04 am to Turbeauxdog
All of these Ukraine supporters who supposedly served in here acting like the US military hasn’t been giving it’s own troops shitty weapons and supplies since Vietnam 
“It’s the old stuff” is a laughable argument. Some of it? Sure.
“It’s the old stuff” is a laughable argument. Some of it? Sure.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:05 am to CitizenK
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What did he get in return to sell out?
He might be actually getting kick backs, or a position when he leaves Congress, or something else. Maybe he’s a religious nut. Maybe he’s just a total cuck. Regardless, he sold out the interests of the majority of his own party’s supporter's
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:05 am to cypher
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The US ruling elites are willing to flood the Kiev regime with weapons for it to continue to fight to the last Ukrainian
I’m certainly not a ruling elite, but as long as Ukrainians want to fight the Russian bastards and keep them out of Ukraine, I am glad we are supporting them. Supporting Ukraine weakens Russia. A weakened Russia makes the world safer.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:07 am to doubleb
Whole lot of text to not give any concrete proof that we prevented WW3 as you claimed
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:08 am to CitizenK
Also I don’t give a frick what Trump or the southern Baptist’s say on the issue. Just for the record. Trump flip flops on issues under the force of a light breeze.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:12 am to VolSquatch
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Whole lot of text to not give any concrete proof that we prevented WW3 as you claimed
It’s my OPINION based on empirical evidence.
We just disagree.
No one knows what would have happened. We only know what happened before and what happened since.
For instance Europe was involved in major wars and two of them being world wars prior to NATO. Since NATO Europe has been relatively quiet. I believe our involvement was crucial to the peace we all enjoyed.
But can I prove that? No I can not, but you can’t prove it didn’t.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:14 am to doubleb
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
Long-range ATACMS missiles may be shipped to Ukraine by the end of next week - Mark Warner, head of the Senate Intelligence Committee
"I hope once this gets to the President by Tuesday or Wednesday, that these shipments will be literally launched with those longer range ATACMs."
Warner Face The Nation Transcript
@nexta_tv
Long-range ATACMS missiles may be shipped to Ukraine by the end of next week - Mark Warner, head of the Senate Intelligence Committee
"I hope once this gets to the President by Tuesday or Wednesday, that these shipments will be literally launched with those longer range ATACMs."
Warner Face The Nation Transcript
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 11:22 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:14 am to doubleb
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Supporting Ukraine weakens Russia. A weakened Russia makes the world safer
Human sacrifice to weaken a borderline 2nd world country whose resources are ones most of the first world are intent on moving away from in the near-ish future
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