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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Wall or not, illegal immigration was very much held in check under Trump.


In check? You are so incredibly full of it.

Illegal border crossings during the Trump administration were higher than they were during either of Obama's terms, and the illegal border crossings during the Obama administration were bad enough that "Build the Wall" was a Trump campaign slogan.

Again, I'm not saying this to attack Trump. I'm just sick of the stupid hypocrisy.



Gentlemen there is a board for that type of discussion. Unless we are discussing illegal Russians crossing the Ukraine-Russia border.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:28 pm to
There were less apprehensions bc they stopped coming in such large numbers

Eta to stay on topic: Slava Rusiya
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4689 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:33 pm to
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I really don't think this is true.


By year: LINK
2008 - 723,825
Obama Term 1 (Average: 431,110)
2009 - 556,041
2010 - 463,382
2011 - 340,252
2012 - 364,768
Obama Term 2 (Average: 415,093/8-yr average: 423,102)
2013 - 420,789
2014 - 486,651
2015 - 337,117
2016 - 415,816
Trump (Average: 494,802)
2017 - 310,531
2018 - 404,142
2019 - 859,501
2020 - 405,036
Biden (Average: 1,938,410)
2021 - 1,662,167
2022 - 2,214,652

FWIW:
quote:

Between 1990 and February 2020, the United States border patrol figures measured "apprehensions" and "expulsions" as separate figures. Beginning in March 2020, U.S. border patrol changed its methodology to include counts for both apprehensions and expulsions as "encounters."
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45690 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

There were less apprehensions bc they stopped coming in such large numbers

Eta to stay on topic: Slava Rusiya




Weren't you complaining about being called a Russian troll earlier?
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:39 pm to
It was a joke come on
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
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104464 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:40 pm to
What happened in 2019 that spiked it so much? Were those the caravans organized by Soros?

And those Biden numbers are much lower than the figures Tucker has been using.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 4:43 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45690 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:44 pm to
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It was a joke come on


Then put an emoji behind it.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5722 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:58 pm to
probably enough to sink 6 or 7 ships...or maybe take down a bridge...

Ukrainian crowdfunding campaign raises $7.8 million for sea drone fleet in record 36 hours

by Elsa Court February 23, 2024 11:13 PM

A crowdfunding campaign to raise money to produce maritime drones has raised enough money for 35 naval drones, worth in total Hr. 297,500,000 (over $7.77 million), in a record 36 hours, Ukrainian fundraising platform United24 announced on Feb. 23.

The funds will cover the cost of producing 35 "Sea Baby" drones, "thanks to which the Security Service of Ukraine hit the Crimean Bridge, as well as nine Russian ships," United24 said.

The Kyiv Independent
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28758 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

You have no idea what actually goes into training pilots to fly these aircraft and learn tactics and the proper way to fight the aircraft. This almost goes double for their ground crews.

That's true, I have no experience with this. There are just so many political delays that I'm beyond frustrated with this incessant foot dragging.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16095 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:13 pm to
Hey Pilot,"
What's with all the Hornets and A-10's flying in formator over Baton Rouge today? 3 Hornets and 5 A-10's always in formation. I've seen the Hornets at least 3 times and a friend on the Amite River and Bayou Manchac saw them and the A-10's a few times.

Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:14 pm to
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That's true, I have no experience with this. There are just so many political delays that I'm beyond frustrated with this incessant foot dragging.


The United States needed stronger leadership, IMO. Biden was just about the worst possible man for this particular job at this particular time.

You tell Putin before the invasion, "If you go in there, we will support whatever opposes you." And then you do it.

And after the Russians lose outside of Kyiv, you boost capacity and give Ukraine what it needs to win, not what it needs to survive.

History will show that Ukraine had a real chance to reclaim most of its land, but it failed to do so because Biden was afraid to fully support them.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8657 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:28 pm to
Not sure I actually live in Colorado now to be closer to my home base but if I had to guess practicing maneuvers out of NAS JRB on the south shore. Enjoy anytime you get to see the hog in the air, her days are unfortunately numbered.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 5:32 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16095 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:44 pm to
Hornets for sure, but I've never seen hogs in the air around here.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56590 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:49 pm to
[quote]What happened in 2019 that spiked it so much?[/quote

Pandemic and probably urgency that the wall was being built

don't know
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13434 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:52 pm to
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I really don't think this is true.

I'm not paying $179 to find out.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105468 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

History will show that Ukraine had a real chance to reclaim most of its land, but it failed to do so because Biden was afraid to fully support them.






Jake Sullivan has a lot to answer for.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4689 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:08 pm to
Putin complains about lack of piercing questions from Tucker Carlson

quote:

Russian President Vladimir Putin says he was surprised by a lack of sharp questions from U.S. television host Tucker Carlson in an interview that made headlines around the world last week.

Putin told a Russian TV interviewer, Pavel Zarubin, that he had wanted Carlson to behave more aggressively, which would have given him the right to reply just as pointedly.

"To be honest, I thought that he would behave aggressively and ask so-called sharp questions. I was not just prepared for this, I wanted it, because it would give me the opportunity to respond in the same way," Putin said in comments broadcast on Wednesday.

In his first interview with an American journalist since before Russia's invasion of Ukraine nearly two years ago, Putin subjected Carlson to a half-hour lecture on history.

He told Zarubin he was surprised that Carlson had not interrupted him more.

"Frankly, I did not get full satisfaction from this interview," Putin said.

The Kremlin said Putin had agreed to the Carlson interview because the approach of the former Fox News host differed from the "one-sided" reporting of the Ukraine conflict by many Western news outlets.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45690 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

The Ukrainian Armed Forces just shot down a Russian Il-22M.

It’s an airborne command post and radio relay aircraft worth around USD 35 million.

Russia started the war with 12 of them, but now has significantly less of them.
LINK

Eto byl plokhoy den' dlya russkogo v vozdukhe.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105468 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:13 pm to
I wonder if it was the same incident as that A50. They often operate together. The IL22 acts as a communications relay for the A5O, which lacks sufficient bandwidth.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:17 pm to
It was a terrible interview and Putin knows it

First, Tucker throwing softballs and letting him talk just made it look scripted.

Second, Putin didn’t get a chance to say anything new. It was all stuff we all believed he believed.

Poliboard loved it because they got to rub one out but that’s about it.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 6:18 pm
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