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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:14 pm to
So, it turns out that the Russians are trying to put nukes into outer space.

I'm sure that the tards Will be in here soon to explain why it's all America's fault.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:18 pm to
Nevermind. We've already got the conspiracy theory allegations.

Y'all, that's why the Republican chairman of the house intelligence committee (who is a strong Ukraine supporter) is asking for the information to be declassified. So that everyone can see the raw intel, and people can see that it's real.
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:26 pm to
Using Russia as a scapegoat is new? We’ve heard it for 7 years at minimum. That’s my only point. My post history in this thread will easily show I’ve been supportive of Ukraine effort, western aid, etc.

The timing is a bit on the head is the point. I guess we’ll see if anything is declassed, what that looks like, and if it seems logical. Not like they haven’t faked intelligence related to Russia for their own gain before.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5729 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:28 pm to
UKRINFORM - Russia launches Zircon missile at Ukraine for first time - experts
12.02.2024 22:36

Specialists with the Kyiv Research Institute of Forensic Examinations concluded that Russia used a 3M22 Zircon missile during the missile attack on Kyiv on February 7.

This was announced by the Institute chief, Oleksandr Ruvin, Ukrinform reports with reference to Army Inform.

Researchers analyzed missile fragments, including specific markings.

Ruvin drew attention to the fact that the missile targeted a residential area with no military facilities around, as a result of which civil infrastructure sustained damage and civilians were killed and wounded.

The 3M22 Zircon is an anti-ship hypersonic cruise missile Russia accepted for service in January 2023. The enemy claims the 8-10m-long missile can fly at speeds of up to Mach 8-9 at a range of 600-1,500 km, carrying a 300-400kg warhead.

Experts noted that the microelectronics found in the debris were poorly preserved and practically impossible to analyze due to severe physical damage.

Ukrainian experts also claim that the weapon does not meet the tactical and technical characteristics declared by Russia.

Markings found on missile fragments indicate that the weapon was assembled recently.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

So, it turns out that the Russians are trying to put nukes into outer space.

Wut? Are you kidding? Do we know that for fact?

If Russia actually put nukes in orbit, they're absurdly stupid.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:37 pm to
Seems foolish to attack civilians. Doesn't affect the military, wastes a serious weapon, pisses people off and makes Russia look worse.


This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 2:41 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 3:00 pm to
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Seems foolish to attack civilians. Doesn't affect the military, wastes a serious weapon, pisses people off and makes Russia look worse.


The Russians will just claim what they claim every time

1) air defense debris
2) debris from their drones/missiles
3) The building hit was actually housing 100s of soldiers and officers
4) Ukrainian false flag
5) if infrastructure-> the target is used for military
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 3:34 pm to
If the weapons Russia has are inaccurate then there’s no telling what they were really aiming at.

Russia probably knows this, and the missiles are to terrorize Ukrainians just as Hitler did with his wonder weapons in WWII.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21029 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Wut? Are you kidding? Do we know that for fact?

If Russia actually put nukes in orbit, they're absurdly stupid.


Well, it's based on leaks of classified data, but I don't see any reason to doubt it right now.

ABC News

GOP warning of 'national security threat' is about Russia wanting nuclear weapon in space: Sources

quote:

The White House's national security adviser and leading lawmakers on Capitol Hill sought to allay public concerns on Wednesday after the House Intelligence Committee chairman warned of a "national security threat" related to a "destabilizing foreign military capability" so serious that President Joe Biden should declassify "all information" about it.

Two sources familiar with deliberations on Capitol Hill said the intelligence has to do with Russia wanting to put a nuclear weapon into space. This is not to drop a nuclear weapon onto Earth but rather to possibly use against satellites.

Still, "it is very concerning and very sensitive," said one source, calling it "a big deal."
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8185 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 3:54 pm to
Russia lost another Ropucha class landing ship. They have lost several of these now.

Video at link

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1757676764808028412
quote:

The Ukrainian GUR just posted footage of multiple Ukrainian USVs hitting the Russian Ropucha-class landing ship Caesar Kunikov this morning, sinking it.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ropucha-class_landing_ship
quote:

The Project 775, NATO reporting name Ropucha class (Polish for Toad), is a class of landing ship (large landing ship or Bol'shoy Desantnyy Korabl (BDK) in Soviet classification) built in Poland for the Soviet Navy. The ships were built in the Stocznia Pólnocna shipyards in Gdansk, Poland. They were designed for beach landings, and can carry 450 tons of cargo. The ships have both bow and stern doors for loading and unloading vehicles, and the 630 square metres (6,800 sq ft) of vehicle deck stretch the length of the hull. Up to 25 armored personnel carriers can be embarked.[2]

While designed for roll-on/roll-off operations, they can also be loaded using dockside cranes. For this purpose there is a long sliding hatch-cover above the bow section for access to the vehicle deck. There are no facilities for helicopters.

In total, 28 ships of this type were commissioned from 1975 to 1991. The last three ships were of the improved variant Project 775M, also called Ropucha II. These have improved defensive armament and accommodation for a greater number of troops.


This is the 2nd time the Caesar Kunikov has been hit.
quote:

In late March 2022, Novocherkassk and Caesar Kunikov were damaged in a Ukrainian attack in the port of Berdiansk. Caesar Kunikov's commander, Captain of the 3rd rank Alexander Chirva, was reportedly killed in the strike.[11][12] The ships were unable to return to active duty for several months due to lack of spare parts.[13]

In early August 2023, Olenegorsky Gornyak was seriously damaged at the Black Sea Novorossiysk naval base after it was struck by a Ukrainian maritime drone carrying 450 kilograms (990 lb) of TNT.[14] The ship was pictured under tow, listing 40–50 degrees to port as tugboats worked to put it in a safe position.[15][16]

On 13 September 2023, Russian military reported that the Sevastopol Shipyard had been struck by a Ukrainian missile attack, damaging Minsk and the Kilo-class submarine Rostov-on-Don.[17][18][19][20] The UK Ministry of Defence assessed Minsk as being "functionally destroyed" as a result of the attack with a greater than 95% probability.[21][22]

On 26 December 2023, Novocherkassk was struck by Ukrainian cruise missiles and destroyed. Satellite imagery taken after the strike showed that an exploded wreck was what remained of the ship.[23]

On 14 February 2024, Caesar Kunikov was reported sunk by several Ukrainian naval drones.[24]
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5729 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 4:56 pm to
Ukraine Battle Map
@ukraine_map

There is a large fire at an oil depot in the Kursk Region of Russia, it was likely hit by Ukrainian Kamikaze Drones

Twitter
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56592 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

But the problem is that Trump told GOP congressmen that he wants the border to stay a campaign issue. Trump wants the border to stay a mess so that he can continue to attack Biden about it.

So nothing is going to get done on the border until the election.


Let's review shall we?

in 2020 we had 400k annual illegal entries, the lowest in like 30 years.

In 2024 thus far we have had already 780k illegal entries...

2.4 million in 2023

IN 2021 Biden ceased border wall construction
he ceased all the things Trump was doing to slow down illegal immigration...

for 3 years the Biden administration has maintained the border is "closed" secure and so on. Do I need to link a montage of this BS we've been fed by Biden for you?

but now they say the invasion is a crisis and that it's Trump and MAGA republican's fault..

and now we hear Trump doesn't want anything done so he can run on this issue?

Excuse me but...

The only one giving a damn about the border issue is Trump and very few GOP members...that's been the case for a long time.

Please vote correctly in Nov.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56592 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:39 pm to
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Well, it's based on leaks of classified data, but I don't see any reason to doubt it right now.


This so called leak BS is related the 96 Billion spending bill the Senate approved but is now awaiting House approval or vote...and likely will sit DOA.

It's too darn coincidental after the speaker pushed back on the Senate putting this ahead of the border issues.

I would ask all of you watch Col Douglas MacGregor on anything related Ukraine and Russia...





Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26879 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:42 pm to
Drones are changing the nature of war on land, sea and air. Drones with AI will only add to that.

The cell phone in my pocket is a lot more powerful than a super computer 30 years ago. That processor chip is cheap and powerful for smart drones.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26879 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

If the weapons Russia has are inaccurate then there’s no telling what they were really aiming at.

Russia probably knows this, and the missiles are to terrorize Ukrainians just as Hitler did with his wonder weapons in WWII.


Quite possible.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21029 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:25 pm to
quote:


I would ask all of you watch Col Douglas MacGregor on anything related Ukraine and Russia...


If you want Putin's perspective, you can just listen to him directly. No need to hear MacGregor repeat it.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

Well, it's based on leaks of classified data, but I don't see any reason to doubt it right now.



God Almighty, you are a heckn retard.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

So, it turns out that the Russians are trying to put nukes into outer space.

I'm sure that the tards Will be in here soon to explain why it's all America's fault


I'm here to explain that you are as naive as a newborn baby.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:50 pm to
What do you think about Putin saying he wants to see Mushbrain Biden re-elected?

Putin must really hate us.

This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 6:54 pm
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

What do you think about Putin saying he wants to see Mushbrain Biden re-elected?


It's funny and ironic because that's who GOPe_Tiger, StormyMcCain, and CitizenKuck want to see win too.
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