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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:30 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:30 am to
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Everyone knows how much I support Ukraine. However, not securing our border while helping Ukraine and Israel is asinine


What’s asinine is linking the border problems to Ukraine. The Republicans should propose a border rehabilitation bill designed to stop the invasion of criminals, dugs and put it front and center.

Coupling it with Ukraine is a mistake.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21029 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:32 am to
A key point to keep in mind with the supplemental:

It's an investment of an additional $33 billion in the US defense industrial base. Russia, obviously, has massively increased its military industrial base since the start of the war. Deterring China in Taiwan depends on our ability to make the necessary weapons. Many US manufacturers are now facing long backlogs, and additional investment helps pay for new production lines.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21029 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:36 am to
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The Republicans should propose a border rehabilitation bill designed to stop the invasion of criminals, dugs and put it front and center.


But the problem is that Trump told GOP congressmen that he wants the border to stay a campaign issue. Trump wants the border to stay a mess so that he can continue to attack Biden about it.

So nothing is going to get done on the border until the election.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8424 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:47 am to
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Ukraine has called up over a million men sent them through training and then sent them home because they didn’t need them yet.


This article from the pro-Ukraine NYT is odd, then.

LINK
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8424 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:53 am to
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But the problem is that Trump told GOP congressmen that he wants the border to stay a campaign issue. Trump wants the border to stay a mess so that he can continue to attack Biden about it.

So nothing is going to get done on the border until the election.



There is a practical argument to wait.... Half-bake a "solution" now, or do what is actually necessary to fix the problem in a year. If you believe Trump actually will do what is necessary, and that he is capable of doing so at all.

But it seems like a no-brainer to me for the GOP to prop up some common sense fixes now even if they have to give Ukraine some money to get it done.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:57 am to
The Russians allegedly issued a surrender ultimatum to the Ukrainian forces there. The MSR has been cut for a couple of days, and I think it was two day ago where nothing made it in or out.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:19 am to
quote:

But the problem is that Trump told GOP congressmen that he wants the border to stay a campaign issue. Trump wants the border to stay a mess so that he can continue to attack Biden about it.


It is a campaign issue until the Dems agree to shut it down. What Langford proposed did not do that.

The Republicans need to get out front with a border rehabilitation bill to stop unchecked immigration, and to put in place a method to facilitate immigrants with skills necessary to our economy.

People all over can see the results of the current open border system. We need to protect our homeland first.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:23 am to
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People all over can see the results of the current open border system. We need to protect our homeland first.




100%
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16114 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:43 am to
Price point goes down as production rate increases.

The amount of contractors taking advantage is not even close to WWII. There was a company in NOLA which received a contract to make steel bed frames for the Army and intentionally made them shorter than specified. After rejection then sold them to the public at a higher price. It was the only way to get the materials needed.

An artillery shell manufacturer in St. Louis reportedly never had a single round approved yet made shells throughout the war and continued to get contracts through the Vietnam war. At least that was the word at the steel foundry next door when I was there in the late 1980's. The steel foundry made parts for rail cars from the late 1800's up through the early 1980's. During WWII and Korea it cast tank turrets. I sure wish I had kept the records of labor shipped by box car from the Mississippi Delta during WWI to replace labor that went off to Europe. We found them in a basement.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21029 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 11:14 am to
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As for why the ZSU is not withdrawing from Avidiivka: well, contacts deployed there say it’s better to continue fighting inside the town, where there is plentiful of cover, than to withdraw west of it - into the open, where there is no cover. For reasons nicely explained by Don, two days ago, even field fortifications there wouldn’t offer as good protection as the ruins of Avidiivka and the Coke Plant.


LINK
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105479 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 11:14 am to
The Black Sea artificial reef program continues.. LINK
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24287 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 11:16 am to
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Coupling it with Ukraine is a mistake.


That battle is lost.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15663 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 11:18 am to
This thing is still going on? How much taxpayer money has our government sent them since it started?
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 11:18 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26879 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 11:25 am to
quote:

But the problem is that Trump told GOP congressmen that he wants the border to stay a campaign issue. Trump wants the border to stay a mess so that he can continue to attack Biden about it.

So nothing is going to get done on the border until the election.


Given the last 3 years, of Biden's illegal migration welcome mat, there isn't any deal or legislation that would make a difference. Lots of laws on the books that are simply being intentionally ignored.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21029 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 12:55 pm to
LINK

This appears to be related to the latest Russian Soyuz launch. Several people have said that it is "space-related."

quote:

A U.S. Intelligence Official has reportedly told CNN that the National Security Threat is a “Highly Concerning and Destabilizing” Capability established by the Russian Armed Forces.



House Intelligence Committee Chairman:

Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

That battle is lost.


There was no battle, our people negotiated in public and tied the two together. The Dems just took advantage of our strategic mistake.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Given the last 3 years, of Biden's illegal migration welcome mat, there isn't any deal or legislation that would make a difference. Lots of laws on the books that are simply being intentionally ignored.


That’s why I called for a border rehabilitation act. A plan designed to use the laws in the book combined with dollars to fix the hokes in the border and the personnel to block the holes.

Illegal immigrants are destroying our society, overwhelming our institutions and it’s apparent that our charitable nature as a nation is being grossly abused.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2876 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:58 pm to
Didn't the House pass HR-2 and the Senate declined to pick it up?
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

A U.S. Intelligence Official has reportedly told CNN that the National Security Threat is a “Highly Concerning and Destabilizing” Capability established by the Russian Armed Forces.


I’ve been supportive of Ukraine from the start, but given the current battle on funding and a recent public media acknowledgment of the spying effort on Trump in the Russia collusion scandal, this feels a bit on the nose vs real threat.
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