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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 1/13/24 at 11:50 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 1/13/24 at 11:50 am to SteelerBravesDawg
I'm sorry that I do not support the Biden foreign policy as you, GOPeTiger, and NBAPilot7 do.
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Posted on 1/13/24 at 11:59 am to CitizenK
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Russian CEO phone call this morning, former finance director at Gazprom. He was laughing at what a shitshow Putin is.
Hope he stays away from open windows in elevated locations.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:19 pm to RuLSU
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Give Ukraine $60b of those frozen assets, tell Russia that every quarter, Ukraine gets $60b more. See if you can prod Russia back to the negotiating table that way.
It gets a little tricky where oligarchs who oppose Putin are concerned. At least for those who haven't accidentally fallen out of window or off of a roof.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:40 pm to Hateradedrink
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irony here being most of the people making those arguments voted for people who championed that
I realize this is off-topic (ironic, given the board) but I detest civil asset forfeiture in many cases. It's far too easy for the state to pilfer inappropriately.
In the case of Russia's foreign assets, though, they were warned of what would happen if they invaded Ukraine. It is universally acknowledged as an illegal invasion/occupation.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 1:21 pm to SirWinston
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including the Biden / MIC bombing of Yemen.
How dare we let terrorists close down shipping lanes unimpeded. I often wonder what our founding fathers would've done, other frick them up like Jefferson did off the Barbary coast... which was kinda like what James Madison did a decade later
Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:25 pm to SirWinston
quote:what about Trumps strikes in Syria?
including the Biden / MIC bombing of Yemen.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:27 pm to WestCoastAg
Don't hold your breath waiting on an answer.
He isn't even a real person. He's playing a character on the Internet.
He isn't even a real person. He's playing a character on the Internet.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:37 pm to Auburn1968
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Hope he stays away from open windows in elevated locations.
He lives in the US and has applied for citizenship even though his well connected (decades) parents are in Moscow
Posted on 1/13/24 at 5:25 pm to RuLSU
It’s an ineffective response. They seize equivalent assets in Russia, we damage our credibility as a place to invest your money, and the money taken doesn’t help Kiev. We can send them money. Production capacity is the problem.
Ultimately, seizing the money hurts us more than it will hurt Russia.
Ultimately, seizing the money hurts us more than it will hurt Russia.
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 1/13/24 at 7:21 pm to Lima Whiskey
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
A recent video appeal by a Serbian mercenary addressed to Russian President Vladimir Putin has unleashed discussions about an ongoing “clan war” within the Kremlin and the Russian information space against the backdrop of the Russian presidential campaign.
In-fighting and factional dynamics within the Kremlin are not new phenomena and do not indicate the imminent collapse of Putin’s regime, particularly because power verticals are the foundation of Putin's regime.
Russian forces launched a medium-sized drone, missile, and air attack against Ukraine on the night of January 12-13 using a strike package similar to recent Russian strike packages.
Russian forces are reportedly increasingly using chemical weapons in Ukraine in continued apparent violations of the Chemical Weapons Convention, to which Russia is a party.
A fire destroyed a large warehouse in St. Petersburg belonging to Russia’s largest online retailer Wildberries on January 12.
Russian forces made confirmed advances near Kreminna and Avdiivka amid continued positional engagements along the entire front line.
Russian forces may be forming air assault brigades within combined arms ground formations as part of ongoing large-scale military reforms.
Russian officials continue to fund social projects in occupied Ukraine in an effort to integrate these territories further into Russia and create the veneer of an active civil society in occupied areas.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 7:51 pm to SirWinston
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I'm sorry that I do not support the Biden foreign policy as you, GOPeTiger, and NBAPilot7 do.
What a pathetic trolling attempt.
The Biden foreign policy is essentially the same policy of weakness that Trump employed. Trump sold out our Afghan allies to the Taliban, and then Biden finalized that evil deal. Trump projected weakness in coddling dictators such as Kim Jung Un, and now Biden is afraid of Iran.
Trump promised the saps who voted for him that he would build the wall and make Mexico pay for it. When he was elected in 2016, he had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress, and did he use it to pass a border bill? No, he passed a tax cut for his rich friends.
The very reason that the world seems to be falling about, the reason that a few stupid primitive Houthis are doing what they are doing, is that the United States has had back-to-back-to-back weak Presidents. The world does not respect us, and evil terrorists do not fear us.
And the same stupid saps like SirWinston are begging to get Trump back again. This time, they are sure, Trump will actually keep his promise on the border, instead of just taking care of his rich friends and palling around with dictators.
The easiest prediction in the world is that terrorism around the world -- already exploding under Biden in the Middle East and Africa -- will get even worse if Trump is elected. Trump is the one who made the deal to give Afghanistan back to the terrorists, which is what emboldened them across the whole region.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 8:21 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The Biden foreign policy is essentially the same policy of weakness that Trump employed. Trump sold out our Afghan allies to the Taliban, and then Biden finalized that evil deal.
Trump's plan was not at all what Biden did. Trump's plan was to bring the Taliban into the government peacefully. There was no deadline. Only Biden was dumb enough to cut and run in the middle of Taliban fighting season. Trump's policy was to hit the Taliban with great power if they killed an American pending the peace plan.
Biden is an idiot and a fool.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 8:24 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Trump is the one who made the deal to give Afghanistan back to the terrorists, which is what emboldened them across the whole region.
Afghanistan is what it is. Changing it would require generations and annihilating the local cultures.
The only way to maintain our client government there was going to be a perpetual and expensive deployment. It wasn’t worth it. At some point we just had to walk away. Staying was crazy.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 8:42 pm to Auburn1968
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Trump's plan was not at all what Biden did. Trump's plan was to bring the Taliban into the government peacefully. There was no deadline. Only Biden was dumb enough to cut and run in the middle of Taliban fighting season. Trump's policy was to hit the Taliban with great power if they killed an American pending the peace plan.
Milley confronted Trump, got him to cave and backtrack, and prevented a much greater disaster in Afghanistan than the one we saw under Biden.
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Just eight days after the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump was so determined to end the war in Afghanistan during his presidency that he secretly signed a memo to withdraw all troops by January 15, 2021, according to a new book, “Peril,” from journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.
The November 11 memo, according to the authors, had been secretly drafted by two Trump loyalists and never went through the normal process for a military directive – the secretary of defense, national security adviser and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs had all never seen it. Unpredictable, impulsive, Trump had done an end run around his whole national security team.
In a remarkable scene, the authors write, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley, newly appointed acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller and his new chief of staff Kash Patel were all blindsided when the memo arrived at the Pentagon.
Woodward and Costa reproduced the memo in “Peril.” The directive was titled, “Memorandum for the Acting Secretary of Defense: Withdrawal from Somalia and Afghanistan,” and the memo read: “I hereby direct you to withdraw all US forces from the Federal Republic of Somalia no later than 31 December 2020 and from the Islamic Republican of Afghanistan no later than 15 January 2021. Inform all allied and partner forces of the directives. Please confirm receipt of this order.”
Milley studied the memo and announced he was heading to the White House to confront Trump.
LINK
Trump is at least as senile as Biden. They are both pathetic, weak old men. It's insane that we are likely committing ourselves to an Alzheimer's President for the next four years.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 8:53 pm to GOP_Tiger
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It's insane that we are likely committing ourselves to an Alzheimer's President for the next four years.
Only people who have TDS like yourself are committing to a second Biden presidency.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:07 pm to dallastigers
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Only people who have TDS like yourself
TDS? Oh no. Next, you'll be telling me that I'm a cuck. Or you'll call be a neocon for believing in Ronald Reagan's foreign policy. How will I ever go on with life?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:15 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Milley confronted Trump, got him to cave and backtrack, and prevented a much greater disaster in Afghanistan than the one we saw under Biden.
Milley is a stupid man.
If he was in control, we would never have left.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:57 pm to CitizenK
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Not according to a Russian CEO biz friend. Totally screwed for at least a decade. Money has been steadily leaving Russia for other nations since the spring of 2022. Last summer he was setting up companies in SE Asia for Russian money to flee too. Most of 2022, it was Central Asian nations, former SSRs.
You have his phone number, if he is convincing Asian companies to use "russia money" ie rubles to set up companies he must be one heck of a salesman
Russia is simply "cross docking" their exports and its biz as usual. Heck most on this board who have flown since this started have helped the Russian economy, using jet fuel from India....made with Russia oil.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 10:04 pm to RuLSU
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In the case of Russia's foreign assets, though, they were warned of what would happen if they invaded Ukraine. It is universally acknowledged as an illegal invasion/occupation.
Now do Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Pakistan...
Posted on 1/13/24 at 10:05 pm to GOP_Tiger
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TDS? Oh no. Next, you'll be telling me that I'm a cuck. Or you'll call be a neocon for believing in Ronald Reagan's foreign policy. How will I ever go on with life?
Oh no. Next you will make up more “future” crap and avoid main point.
Below is my full quote:
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Only people who have TDS like yourself are committing to a second Biden presidency
Are you committing to a second Biden presidency (2nd term)?
You obviously have an extreme bias against Trump and have a textbook case of TDS, but if you are not committing to a 2nd term of Biden then why get so defensive about having a syndrome?
Unless you were implying Trump is weak and has Alzheimer’s along with Biden, but that would just be another symptom of the TDS label that set you off earlier and also be like those who said Reagan actually had Alzheimer’s during his 2nd term as President.
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