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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:09 am to
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:09 am to
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"Plan for victory in Ukraine": US Republicans set out their vision for US role in defeating Russia


It's about damned time and long overdue, but could be more
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:11 am to
you lot are something else
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 4:19 am
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:17 am to
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Looks like the first half dozen Ukrainian F-16 pilots will be rated for aircraft operations this spring. My guess was the first batch of their tip of the spear pilots would be ready June 1st so this looks to be right along that timeline. This is only 6 pilots and 6 F-16s though. The next closest group if I had to guess will come in the last couple months of 2024 hopefully to be able to stand their first full operational F-16 squadron by Christmas. It will be early to mid 2025 before they can get most of the others ready


The LARP is strong in this guy
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 4:18 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21038 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:25 am to
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"Plan for victory in Ukraine": US Republicans set out their vision for US role in defeating Russia


It's about damned time and long overdue, but could be more


This was the plan advocated back in November. It happens sometimes that something like this gets rediscovered and run through the media cycle again.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:26 am to
It’s a futile waste of human resources and money, as the based Slovak PM said in response on Volodymyr Zelenskyyyyyys solicitation tour of Eastern Europe
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5738 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:43 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 12 January 2024

Ukrainian forces operating on the east bank of the Dnipro River have been using First Person View Uncrewed Aerial Vehicles (FPV-UAVs) fitted with munitions to target Russian Forces.

The FPV-UAVs are being used in conjunction with artillery to target Russian Forces' vehicles, with a Russian military blogger estimating 90 per cent of Russian military equipment in the Krynky sector has been destroyed.

Russia's inability to counter the FPV-UAVS is likely due to a shortage of Russian Electronic Warfare capability in the area.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21038 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:50 am to
LINK

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Rishi Sunak is on a surprise visit to Kyiv today as he announces a new package of military aid, security assurances and humanitarian support.

The prime minister will sign a UK-Ukraine Agreement on Security Cooperation with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy - committing the UK to provide intelligence sharing, cyber security, medical and military training, and defence industrial cooperation.

The UK will also provide £2.5bn in military aid to Ukraine in 2024-25, an increase of £200m on the previous two years.

About £200m will also be spent on a push to procure and produce thousands of military drones.

It will be the largest delivery of drones to Ukraine from any nation, according to Downing Street. Most are expected to be manufactured in the UK.

The package will also provide the country with long-range missiles, air defence, artillery ammunition and maritime security.

Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 6:39 am to
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Proposed Plan for Victory in Ukraine


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Proposed Plan for Victory in Ukraine

Biden’s mantra of supporting Ukraine “for as long as it takes” is a losing
strategy. Instead, House Republicans believe President Biden should
present a credible plan for victory and arm Ukraine with the weapons it
needs to win as soon as possible.

Since the first day of the war, Biden’s debilitating hesitation to provide
critical weapons to Ukraine has delayed a Ukrainian victory. Ukraine needs
the longest-range variant of ATACMS, F-16s, and sufficient quantities of
cluster munitions, artillery, air defenses, and armor to make a difference
on the battlefield. This delay is costing Ukrainian lives and the American taxpayer.

A path to victory for Ukraine will require
(1) providing critical weapons to
Ukraine at the speed of relevance,
(2) tightening sanctions on the Putin
regime, and
(3) transferring frozen Russian sovereign assets to Ukraine.

This will take congressional Republican pressure, which has been the key
to unlocking every new needed weapon system to Ukraine since the start
of the war. The bipartisan and bicameral bill, the REPO Act, will also
require the Biden administration lead a coalition of allies to transfer up to
$300 billion in frozen Russian sovereign assets to assist Ukraine.

This strategy will ensure Ukraine is able to make the needed advances on
the battlefield to force Putin to the negotiating table. If Ukraine doesn’t
negotiate from a position of strength, there can be no lasting peace.


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As a percentage of GDP, the U.S. ranks just 30th in total assistance to Ukraine, with Poland, the Baltic states, the UK, Norway, and others contributing more in terms of this metric. In terms of security assistance by GDP, the U.S. ranks 14th. Europe has also committed more non-security assistance to Ukraine than the United States. House Republicans need to push our allies to continue this positive trend.


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In 2023, NATO collectively boosted defense spending by 8.3% – the largest yearly increase in the past decade – and allies have purchased $90 billion of U.S. weapons to backfill their donations to Ukraine.


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The Biden administration’s feeble approach to foreign policy crises is costing Ukrainian
lives and American treasure. From his failure in Afghanistan, and his inability to secure the U.S. border, to his failure to quickly put an end to Russia’s renewed aggression in
Ukraine, President Biden’s policies are projecting a weak image of the U.S. abroad and forcing the taxpayer to bail him out. If President Biden stood up to Vladimir Putin with pre-invasion sanctions, didn’t rollback Trump administration sanctions on Nord Stream 2,and provided visible and significant lethal assistance, he could have deterred Putin before he invaded. Unfortunately, the current Biden policy of supporting Ukraine “for as
long as it takes” has prolonged this conflict. Instead, the strategy should be to give Ukraine the resources it needs to win now, and inflict maximum pressure on the Russian economy, so that this conflict can be brought to an end.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:10 am to
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esources it needs to win now,


What Ukraine NEEDS to win is a third party to enter the war. They aren’t getting that, so what else is there? I swear, the west gets more retarded by the day about foreign policy
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:37 am to
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swear, the west gets more retarded by the day about foreign policy


Russia, however, has been knocking it out of the park invading a country with 400k dead (so far), ruining their economy and being forced to beg NK and Iran for help.

4d chess from the white hats, brother
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:18 am to
Why do you always have to be such a sarcastic dork? I’m not praising Russia. And those casualties could’ve been 6:1 in Ukraine’s favor instead of 1:1 had we not dithered early on, so I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:22 am to
Did anyone else see that Russia is convening the UN Security Council over the US strikes in Yemen...you know after Yemen has been striking commercial vessels for a few weeks
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3598 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:35 am to
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Did anyone else see that Russia is convening the UN Security Council over the US strikes in Yemen...you know after Yemen has been striking commercial vessels for a few weeks



IMO.. this whole Hamas/Yemen thing is a diversion Iran/Russia has cooked up to distract from Ukraine..

Posted by Kurt Eichenwald
Tentacle, USA
Member since Oct 2017
286 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:12 pm to
Gonzalo Lira is dead.

SLAVA UKRANA(‘s 1991 borders)

Did you know Widespread Panic has been a band longer than Ukraine has been a nation state? WOMP WOMP
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:24 pm to
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A path to victory for Ukraine will require
(1) providing critical weapons to Ukraine at the speed of relevance,
(2) tightening sanctions on the Putin regime, and
(3) transferring frozen Russian sovereign assets to Ukraine.

I'm in favor of all three, but the frozen assets have to be handled carefully. If you're stupid about it, other countries could do similar things to other countries and cause a financial crisis.

Give Ukraine $60b of those frozen assets, tell Russia that every quarter, Ukraine gets $60b more. See if you can prod Russia back to the negotiating table that way.

(And, realistically, I'm at least partially worried that if you gave the Ukrainian state $360b, a lot of money would disappear.)
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8662 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:06 pm to
I’m sorry please tell me how I’m a LARP for just stating facts? How about you go back to the Saints board and jack off to uniform combinations and end zone paintings instead of being a douchebag troll on here. I feel sorry for you actually. You must have a very sorry life.
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 10:39 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5738 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:15 pm to
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A path to victory for Ukraine will require
(1) providing critical weapons to Ukraine at the speed of relevance,
(2) tightening sanctions on the Putin regime, and
(3) transferring frozen Russian sovereign assets to Ukraine.


Related to 1 above. All geographic restrictions on the use of western provided weapons against military targets should be lifted. No need to advertise it in a public document though.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 3:17 pm
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:17 pm to
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Related to 1 above. All restrictions on the use of these weapons against military targets should be lifted. No need to advertise it in a public document though.

Absolutely. And that includes military targets within Russia.

If the Russians don't like seeing their tank factories and Kerch bridges getting hit, they can negotiate a peace deal.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 6:15 pm to
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Why do you always have to be such a sarcastic dork?


It’s literally in the name
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 6:16 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16136 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:03 pm to
Russian CEO phone call this morning, former finance director at Gazprom. He was laughing at what a shitshow Putin is.
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