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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:56 pm to LSUPilot07
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:56 pm to LSUPilot07
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A Russian officer drove a Pantsir air defense system into a bridge in St. Petersburg.
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Posted on 12/23/23 at 8:39 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
An account in Insta that I follow posts daily updates on the war. I’ve noticed for a few weeks now the Russian losses being recorded have jumped. For the last several months they reported daily averages of about 500-700. But for a few weeks now it’s been over 1,000 per day. Tank, AFV, and artillery losses have almost doubled on a daily basis as well.
Take these numbers with a grain of salt as they’re reported by the Ukrainian MOD, so it’s to be expected they’ll inflate numbers to some degree.
Take these numbers with a grain of salt as they’re reported by the Ukrainian MOD, so it’s to be expected they’ll inflate numbers to some degree.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:39 pm to Darth_Vader
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
The New York Times (NYT) - citing former and current senior Russian, US, and international officials - reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin is using back channels and intermediaries to signal his interest in a ceasefire, despite Putin’s recent public statements to the contrary.
The timing of Putin’s reported interest in a ceasefire is more consistent with Russia’s ongoing efforts to delay and discourage further Western military assistance to Ukraine, than with a serious interest in ending the war other than with a full Russian victory.
Russian Airborne Forces (VDV) Commander Colonel General Mikhail Teplinsky obliquely indicated that VDV forces are under significant pressure to conduct rapid offensive operations near Bakhmut and repel Ukrainian attacks on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast.
Teplinsky also implied that the Russian military command is deploying new VDV officers and troops promptly to the frontlines without having them complete pre-combat training.
Russia's Black Sea Fleet's 810th Naval Infantry Brigade confirmed that it is deliberately using chemical weapons against Ukrainian forces in an apparent violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention, to which Russia is a party.
Recent analysis by OSINT analyst MT Anderson confirms that while Russian forces have moved the bulk of Black Sea Fleet (BSF) assets away from occupied Sevastopol, the BSF maintains a limited naval presence in Sevastopol.
The Russian information space exploited news of a Ukrainian journalist’s decision not to return to Ukraine after an assignment abroad to amplify ongoing Russian information operations about resistance to full mobilization efforts in Ukraine that purposefully ignore the much more substantial Russian resistance to Russia’s partial mobilization of reservists in September 2022.
Russian milbloggers used the granting of Russian citizenship to Palestinian refugees on December 23 to promote the idea of Russia’s “compatriots abroad” - an oft-used Kremlin justification for its war in Ukraine.
Russian forces made recent confirmed advances near Kupyansk and Kreminna, northeast of Bakhmut, southwest of Donetsk City, and in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast and continued positional engagements along the entire line of contact.
Russian state-owned defense conglomerate Rostec subsidiary United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Head Yuri Slyusar stated during a television interview on December 19 that UAC will increase its production of combat aircraft in 2024 and 2025, including its production of new types of aircraft.
Russian occupation authorities are building out electoral infrastructure in occupied Ukraine to set conditions for the upcoming presidential election.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 10:48 pm to Darth_Vader
Normally I would agree that the Ukrainians would inflate the numbers but i’m not so sure this time. There has been video after video of columns armored vehicles with infantry on top as well as dismounted troops on foot. They look like ants there are so many but these fields they are trying to capture have been dialed in by Ukrainian artillery with cluster shells and FPV drones as well as anti-tank mines taking out the vehicles. Then you see them attack again over the same ground in the same way except this time they have to go around all the blown out tanks and APCs. You see entire platoons getting wiped out with one well placed cluster shell. This is why i’m glad Ukraine is finally starting to really dig in and make fortifications, switching to full defense. I wish they would have started this at the beginning of November.
This post was edited on 12/23/23 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:02 am to LSUPilot07
Over the last 20 months, the reality is that the Ukrainian numbers are closer to reality than the pro-Putin propaganda is. They may be inflated a little but not by the gulf of a margin that pro Russian sources deflate the actually numbers.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:49 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Pravda reported that a Russian Pantsir took out a bridge with a single strike.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:59 am to CitizenK
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Over the last 20 months, the reality is that the Ukrainian numbers are closer to reality than the pro-Putin propaganda is. They may be inflated a little but not by the gulf of a margin that pro Russian sources deflate the actually numbers.
If Ukraine's numbers are even close to accurate then there is no reason the Ukrainian army shouldn't be driving all the way into Crimea by now. Unless of course their own losses have been so terrible that they have no army to drive to Crimea with.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:20 am to Scuttle But
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If Ukraine's numbers are even close to accurate then there is no reason the Ukrainian army shouldn't be driving all the way into Crimea by now.
The problem is all of the minefields being so wide and so deep. The trenches and dragon teeth not that big a deal without the extensive mining, so NO
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:40 am to CitizenK
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The problem is all of the minefields being so wide and so deep. The trenches and dragon teeth not that big a deal without the extensive mining, so NO
Saw a report that the Russians are also double and triple stacking their mines. That evidently damages demining vehicles rather quickly.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 2:09 pm to Auburn1968
Unconfirmed reports of a russian Su-30 shot down in the Odesa region.
Update from The Kyiv Independent:
Ukraine’s anti-aircraft missile system downed a Russian Su-34 fighter-bomber jet near the occupied Mariupol in Donetsk Oblast, Air Force Commander Mykola Oleshchuk reported on Dec. 24.
The Sukhoi Su-34 is a twin-seat jet. The Air Force didn’t specify whether there were two pilots or one.
Oleshchuk also said the Air Force launched a missile at a Russian Su-30 fighter jet in the Black Sea near Odesa, however, it is still unclear whether the jet was downed.
Official update:
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine confirmed the destruction of another Russian Su-30 in addition to the Su-34 on December 24
Update from The Kyiv Independent:
Ukraine’s anti-aircraft missile system downed a Russian Su-34 fighter-bomber jet near the occupied Mariupol in Donetsk Oblast, Air Force Commander Mykola Oleshchuk reported on Dec. 24.
The Sukhoi Su-34 is a twin-seat jet. The Air Force didn’t specify whether there were two pilots or one.
Oleshchuk also said the Air Force launched a missile at a Russian Su-30 fighter jet in the Black Sea near Odesa, however, it is still unclear whether the jet was downed.
Official update:
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine confirmed the destruction of another Russian Su-30 in addition to the Su-34 on December 24
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 6:34 am
Posted on 12/24/23 at 4:09 pm to cypher
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There was a fire on the nuclear container ship "Sevmorput", which is at the berth in Murmansk, russia.
This is reported by mass media with reference to the press service of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the russian federation in the Murmansk region.
According to them, the ignition occurred on an area of 30 square meters, and the center of ignition is the cabin.
LINK
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It seems indeed they are towing the Sibir away from the Sevmorput…presumably to save it.
LINK
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:46 pm to StormyMcMan
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The New York Times (NYT) - citing former and current senior Russian, US, and international officials - reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin is using back channels and intermediaries to signal his interest in a ceasefire, despite Putin’s recent public statements to the contrary. The timing of Putin’s reported interest in a ceasefire is more consistent with Russia’s ongoing efforts to delay and discourage further Western military assistance to Ukraine, than with a serious interest in ending the war other than with a full Russian victory.
What’s the matter Vlad? Afraid that if Ukraine receives more western aid the second army in the world won’t be able to defeat an illegitimate country made up of Russians who don’t realize they are Russians?
ETA: Is Vlad scared that the losses Russia has sustained will cause him to pull a Hillary and lose a rigged election?
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:07 am to WeeWee
Dec 24 ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
European Union (EU) Foreign Affairs High Representative Josep Borrell stated that Russian President Vladimir Putin is not interested in a limited territorial victory in Ukraine and will continue the war “until the final victory.”
Russian forces are reportedly decreasing aviation activity and their use of glide bombs in Ukraine after Ukrainian forces shot down three Russian Su-34s in southern Ukraine between December 21 and 22.
Russian forces conducted a series of drone and missile strikes against Ukraine on the night of December 23 to 24.
Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov further detailed Ukraine’s efforts to establish a sustainable wartime force-generation apparatus and an effective defense industrial base (DIB) during an interview published on December 24.
Russian President Vladimir Putin continues to portray himself as a gracious leader who cares about the well-being of Russian military personnel, while also presenting himself as an effective Commander-in-Chief of the Russian armed forces.
Russia appears to be continuing its efforts to build out a military occupation force in Ukraine separate from its frontline units through the use of its newly formed Rosgvardia units.
The Russian Black Sea Fleet’s 810th Naval Infantry Brigade edited its acknowledgement that its personnel are deliberately using chemical weapons in Ukraine in a likely effort to hide what could be evidence of an apparent violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention, to which Russia is party.
Russia’s labor shortage, which is partially a result of the war in Ukraine, reportedly amounted to about 4.8 million people in 2023 and will likely continue to exacerbate struggling Kremlin efforts aimed at increasing Russian economic capacity.
Russian forces made confirmed advances near Kreminna and near Avdiivka as positional engagements continue along the entire line of contact.
The newly formed 337th Airborne (VDV) Regiment (104th VDV Division) operating in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast near Krynky is continuing to suffer losses.
Russian officials claimed that Russia’s handling of the situation at the Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) is sufficient, despite recent unsafe incidents during Russian occupation of the plant.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:21 am to StormyMcMan
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The Russian Black Sea Fleet’s 810th Naval Infantry Brigade edited its acknowledgement that its personnel are deliberately using chemical weapons in Ukraine in a likely effort to hide what could be evidence of an apparent violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention, to which Russia is party.
I wonder what type of "chemical weapons" they are using...
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:22 am to TigersnJeeps
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wonder what type of "chemical weapons" they are using...
They bragged about using teargas to clear Ukrainian trenches
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:53 am to WeeWee
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The New York Times (NYT) - citing former and current senior Russian, US, and international officials - reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin is using back channels and intermediaries to signal his interest in a ceasefire, despite Putin’s recent public statements to the contrary. The timing of Putin’s reported interest in a ceasefire is more consistent with Russia’s ongoing efforts to delay and discourage further Western military assistance to Ukraine, than with a serious interest in ending the war other than with a full Russian victory.
Someone put Sir Winston on suicide watch.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:20 am to TigersnJeeps
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I wonder what type of "chemical weapons" they are using...
Tear gas IIRC. They are gassing the trenches to force the Ukrainians out.
Not supposed to use it in warfare.
ETA here is whole blurb from ISW
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The 810th Naval Infantry Brigade stated on its Telegram channel on December 22 that the brigade is using a “radical change in tactics” against Ukrainian forces in Krynky (on the eastern bank of Kherson Oblast) by dropping K-51 grenades from drones onto Ukrainian positions.[33] K-51 aerosol grenades are filled with irritant CS gas (2-Chlorobenzalmalononitrile), a type of tear gas used for riot control (also known as a Riot Control Agent [RCA]), which the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) prohibits as a method of warfare.[34] Between the time of ISW’s data collection on December 23 and this December 24 update the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade’s Telegram edited the post to delete the specific reference to the K-51 grenade.[35] The original phrasing of the post, however, can be still observed on Russian social media accounts that posted screenshots of it, directly reposted the original acknowledgement (since edits to Telegram posts do not affect reposts of an unedited post), or archived the original post — all confirming that the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade did publish the use of K-51 grenades and then edited its post.[36] ISW has not determined when the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade made the edit. A Russian milblogger indirectly criticized the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade on December 22 for exposing a new tactic, which suggests that Russian forces may intend to deliberately use K-51s or other RCAs elsewhere along the front.[37] The Russian milblogger’s complaints or wider reporting about the acknowledgement may have prompted the 810th Naval infantry Brigade, or some Russian official to tell the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade, to edit the post.
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 12/25/23 at 9:31 am to TigersnJeeps
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I wonder what type of "chemical weapons" they are using...
It really doesn’t matter, NATO made them do it.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 1:42 pm to doubleb
Didn't Russia claim to have destroyed Ukraine's X-Wing fighters?
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:23 pm to TigersnJeeps
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The Russian Black Sea Fleet’s 810th Naval Infantry Brigade edited its acknowledgement that its personnel are deliberately using chemical weapons in Ukraine
We already have stalemated trench warfare being fought on a lunar hellscape akin to Passchendaele; now we even have chemical weapons being deployed. It’s unreal how this war is devolved into a redux of WWI.
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