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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:19 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

The failure of Russian operations in Ukraine to achieve Russian President Vladimir Putin’s maximalist objectives thus far is not a permanent condition, and only continued Western support for Ukraine can ensure that Putin’s maximalist objectives remain unattainable.

ISW has assessed that the collapse of Western aid would likely lead to the eventual collapse of Ukraine’s ability to hold off the Russian military and that the current positional war in Ukraine is not a stable stalemate because the current instable balance could readily be tipped in either direction by decisions made in the West.

US National Security Council Spokesperson John Kirby stated that the White House assesses that Russian forces will be able to conduct offensive operations more easily when winter weather conditions become more conducive for mechanized maneuver warfare (likely in January–February 2024) — an assessment that is consistent with ISW’s observations and assessments about the tempo of fighting in Ukraine during the winter.

Russian forces conducted a series of drone strikes against Ukraine on the night of December 20 to 21.

Japan is reportedly preparing to revise its defense equipment export policy to backfill US stockpiles of Patriot missiles and UK artillery ammunition stores.

The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) objected to military exercises in Japan involving the Japanese military, possibly in an effort to deter or respond to the Japanese government’s decision to change its defense equipment export regulations.

The Uzbek Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) summoned Russian Ambassador to Uzbekistan Oleg Malginov after Russian ultranationalist and former Russian State Duma Deputy Zakhar Prilepin suggested that Russia should annex part of Uzbekistan, likely demonstrating post-Soviet countries’ concerns about intensifying Russian imperial designs against the backdrop of the war in Ukraine.

An investigation by Africa-based French-language outlet Jeune Afrique highlights the Kremlin's ongoing efforts to maintain and expand Russia's influence in the Central African Republic (CAR) and the Sahel while subsuming Wagner Group operations on the continent.

Russian President Vladimir Putin continues to formalize avenues for the deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia under the guise of humanitarian services.

Kremlin-appointed Commissioner on Children's Rights Maria Lvova-Belova continues to implicate herself in the deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia against the backdrop of the death of a 12-year-old Ukrainian girl in Russian custody.

The US Treasury Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) announced a series of sanctions against oil traders with opaque ownership and a Russian-owned ship manager that have been helping Russia skirt the G7 price cap on Russian oil and petroleum products.

Russian forces made confirmed advances near Kreminna, Bakhmut, and Avdiivka and continued positional meeting engagements along the entire frontline.

The Russian government continues efforts to digitalize and organize conscription through a unified digital register as part of ongoing attempts to improve the effectiveness of issuing military summonses and prevent draft dodging.

Russian authorities are using Rosgvardia to perform law enforcement functions and strengthen occupational control in occupied Ukraine.


Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:31 pm to
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Washington is in talks with its allies to develop a plan to seize $300 billion in frozen assets of the Russian Central Bank and use the funds to aid Ukraine, The New York Times reported on Dec. 21.



Hey look the Biden White House is finally doing something that I suggested they do 20+ months ago!
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8657 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:19 pm to
Everything sleepy Joe’s administration has been slow, just like Joe himself. Oh how all those MRAPs, Humvees, mortars, small arms, etc that he left for the Taliban to build their army even further would have been very appreciated by the Ukrainians.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16112 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:00 pm to
Interesting convo today with my Russian ex pat friend. Lots of Russian investors putting their money in SE Asia now. They cannot get any ROI investing in Russia these days.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5729 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 12:43 am to
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Washington is in talks with its allies to develop a plan to seize $300 billion in frozen assets of the Russian Central Bank and use the funds to aid Ukraine, The New York Times reported on Dec. 21.



Hey look the Biden White House is finally doing something that I suggested they do 20+ months ago!


It will be interesting to note which public figures, including US politicians, disagree with this plan.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 12:50 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4607 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:57 am to
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Lots of Russian investors putting their money in SE Asia now.
Most of the Russian crude oil that Indian traders are buying is required to be paid for in Rupees that cannot be converted. The Russians are therefore forced to keep this money in Indian investments.

Damn Deepak, that's cold.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139736 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 4:38 am to
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As India frowns on paying for Russian oil with yuan, some payments held up
By Nidhi Verma and Aftab Ahmed
October 16, 2023


India emerged as the top importer of Russian seaborne oil this year, with refiners snapping up the crude sold at a discount after some western nations suspended imports from Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.

But refiners often face problems in settling oil trade with Moscow after the United States and European Union imposed a price cap of $60 a barrel on Russian oil, forcing buyers to use alternatives such as Emirati dirhams for cargoes that have gone above the cap as oil prices have risen.
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Private Indian refiners have continued to pay in yuan and other currencies for Russian oil imports, sources said, with most Indian purchases of Russian oil paid in dirham.

Two refining sources said settlement in yuan increases their costs, as rupees first need to be converted to Hong Kong dollars and then yuan, a process that costs 2-3% more than settling in dirham.

"The rupee to yuan conversion adds an extra extra layer," the refining source cited above said.

Indian Oil, BPCL and HPCL and the country's oil and finance ministries did not immediately respond to Reuters' requests for comments.

While Indian state refiners would prefer to use rupees to pay for Russian oil after the country's central bank last year announced a mechanism to settle foreign trade in rupees, Russia in less keen to accept rupees given as the bilateral trade balance is tilted in Moscow's favour.

However, in India some people see using the yuan as benefitting China, when ties between the two neighbours remain strained after a border clash in 2020 in which 20 Indian soldiers and four Chinese troops were killed.

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Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5729 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 5:37 am to
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The Ukrainian Air Force shot down three Russian SU-34 fighter-bombers in the southern sector, according to the Commander of the Ukrainian Air Force, Oleshchuk.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 5:40 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21027 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 6:11 am to
Ukraine recently received a third Patriot system from Germany. It would appear that it was deployed near Kherson and is responsible for the Su-34 downings.

Russian sources are already confirming aviation losses, though not yet the specifics of three Su-34s.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45706 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 6:43 am to
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Everything sleepy Joe’s administration has been slow, just like Joe himself. Oh how all those MRAPs, Humvees, mortars, small arms, etc that he left for the Taliban to build their army even further would have been very appreciated by the Ukrainians.


That is the most frustrating thing about the US aid to Ukraine for me. It seems like it takes administration at least 6 months to even decide to give Ukraine what it asks for. The only exception is the FrankenSAMs which shows that we could be creative and come up with a solution to a future problem because it happens. It seems like the administration is too busy trying to focused on keeping Ukraine from losing that they are not trying to find a way for Ukraine to win.

ETA: I still think that it’s been 22 months and they haven’t found a way to get Poland’s remaining 19 Mig29s and 18 Su22s and Romania’s Mig21s. These are old planes but still capable and Ukraine already operates them so they know how to fly them and maintain them.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 6:52 am
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12960 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 6:58 am to
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It will be interesting to note which public figures, including US politicians, disagree with this plan.

Why would anyone care if they used Russian money?
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 7:13 am to
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ETA: I still think that it’s been 22 months and they haven’t found a way to get Poland’s remaining 19 Mig29s and 18 Su22s and Romania’s Mig21s. These are old planes but still capable and Ukraine already operates them so they know how to fly them and maintain them.



Is the US involved in this transaction?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5729 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 7:16 am to
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Why would anyone care if they used Russian money?

1. It's being proposed/supported by Biden.

2. Putin does not like it.

Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25037 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 7:17 am to
Pedo joey can not spell Mig, much less approve the give away.
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 7:19 am to
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Pedo joey can not spell Mig, much less approve the give away


Okay. Why do Eastern European countries need his permission to give away their MiGs?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 7:19 am to
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Why would anyone care if they used Russian money?


Honestly the main issue would be the perception of the USD/Euro as a stable place to park money for governments.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139736 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 7:20 am to
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Why would anyone care if they used Russian money?
Weaponizing financial tools like SWIFT, asset seizure and appropriation, etc in a fiat currency world where we currently enjoy reserve status comes with associated risk.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16112 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 8:13 am to
No other currency has enough supply. Totally different than SWIFT system. The US Dollar in international trade is less than 50% of total used already. Everyone acts like it is the only currency used for eons. FALSE.

China's Yuan isn't a fiat currency? BWAHAHA to all the dumbasses out there.

The Japanese Yen and European Euro both tried to take over th global markets and failed. Neither had or has enough supply.

Russia's pissant economy means the Rubble has no clout and never will

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139736 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:09 am to
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Totally different than SWIFT system
and?
SWIFT is a global interback telecom system. We kicked the Russians off of it. There are international ramifications beyond the immediate Russian effect.

quote:

China's Yuan isn't a fiat currency?
Of course it is.

You're citing past history as determinative of a future reserve. That is fair, and I don't disagree with you.

But things can change. That is not a prediction. It is simply a possibility ... e.g., in a US environment descending to fiscal dominance.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16112 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:11 am to
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But things can change. That is not a prediction. It is simply a possibility ... e.g., in a US environment descending to fiscal dominance.


About as certain as me winning the lottery without buying a ticket.

Stop reading takes from clueless pundits (all of them are that regardless of politics) and wannabe pundits
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