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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
83140 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:50 pm to
There are two teams and you are on the wrong one. One day maybe you'll stumble into being red pilled. Enjoy supporting the enemy until that day.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 2:51 pm
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6937 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:03 pm to
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LOL you support the same people that installed Biden and are working overtime to do it again. You are such a simp, and so is anyone who supports Ukraine. The lowest of the low. Beneath soyboys even, because they have the excuse of liberal naiveté.



Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave at the traitors supporting the Russian invasion.

Christ on a Cracker. Liberals aren't the problem-- like a broken clock, they happen to get one right once every now and again. You can tell because the whackalooon left, and the whackaloon populist (I will not call people like that conservative) are aligned in opposition.

American Conservatism has always understood the logic of curtailing our greatest foreign threats, and threats to our interest. A shame that so many who falsely try to wear the mantle of Conservative fail to understand it.

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Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26135 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:08 pm to
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Reported as the third Russian TOS 1A "Solntsepek" destroyed in under a week time near Krynky on the left bank.


I am really posting this not for the information or the boom on the screen but the voice over in the first 10 seconds: Bada-boom jugga jugga muzzafricker.


Twitter video
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5865 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:09 pm to
So i’m the enemy because I’m a Trump Republican that supports Ukraine? Fine I’m the enemy then. Unfortunately you’re still a douchebag and there is no cure for that.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 4:06 pm to
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Sovereign nations have the right to decide what’s best for themselves ... UNLESS what they judge as best for them negatively impacts what is good for another.


Is this your position or the Russians?

And regardless, if the description of the Russian position is accurate, then NATO expansion was absolutely the right thing to do.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18135 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 4:53 pm to
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Unfortunately you’re still a douchebag and there is no cure for that.


No, he doesn't even post what he believes, as we established just a few pages ago. He posts to be "entertaining."

In other words, he's just trolling for fun. He doesn't believe any of the crap he posts.

It's all an act. He probably is a leftist antifa supporter doing this for kicks.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124667 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 4:56 pm to
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Is this your position or the Russians?
Are you illiterate? Are you high? WTF is your excuse for that imbecilic question?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124667 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:13 pm to
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Is this your position or the Russians?
... if the description of the Russian position is accurate
WAIT! What position are you referring to?

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if the description of the Russian position is accurate, then NATO expansion was absolutely the right thing to do.
No, it wasn't the right thing to do.

NATO expansion actually did (and does) threaten Russian sovereignty via an eastward encroaching enemy military alliance.

NATO expansion against a democratized Russia in the late-1990's, especially in association with concomitant kowtowing to Communist China, was absurdly stupid policy.

Putin was the result.
DO YOU GET THAT, DUMBASS?
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 5:07 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2689 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:15 pm to
White House pushing for plan to seize Russia’s frozen $300 billion — report
December 21, 2023, 01:15 PM

Washington is in talks with its allies to develop a plan to seize $300 billion in frozen assets of the Russian Central Bank and use the funds to aid Ukraine, The New York Times reported on Dec. 21.

According to U.S. officials, talks among finance ministers, central bankers, diplomats, and lawyers have intensified over recent weeks amid concerns that Western financial support for Ukraine is waning.

The administration is pressing the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Canada, and Japan to develop a confiscation strategy by the second anniversary of the invasion on Feb. 24, 2024, the report says.

The New Voice of Ukraine
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10398 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:18 pm to
It was rhetorical, to drive home the next point, which you conveniently didn’t address. Notice the ‘regardless’ in the next sentence which was meant to be the completion of the hypophoria.

Again, if that description of the Russian position is accurate, then we have to affirm that the maximalist, defensive realist route that NATO ended up taking.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35727 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:22 pm to
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SirWinston


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such a simp

First truthful thing you've said in this entire thread
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124667 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:22 pm to
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It was rhetorical
bullshite!
It was completely ignorant with regard to the exchanges addressed. So again, are you illiterate, high, or just didn't bother to read WTF you were responding to, dumbass?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83140 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:24 pm to
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He probably is a leftist antifa supporter doing this for kicks.





Quite the opposite. America First.

Think Tucker Carlson with pinches of RFK and NF.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 5:44 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:26 pm to
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WAIT! What position are you referring to?


You do have trouble comprehending really basic sentences.

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No, it wasn't the right thing to do.


Then you are completely naive.

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NATO expansion actually did (and does) threaten Russian sovereignty via an eastward encroaching enemy military alliance.


I am going to ask you a question and this is a question which has a correct answer. Who drove NATO expansion?

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NATO expansion against a democratized Russia, especially in association with concomitant kowtowing to Communist China, was absurdly stupid policy.


You aren’t thinking this through. There was no guarantee that Russia would actually be a successful democracy in the post-Soviet era. You are giving NATO also supernatural abilities. If you read the diplomatic cables during that era, you’d likely see many things that you seem hellbent on not seeing, namely that there wasn’t any certainty that Russia would take a democratic path and that Russia itself had many choices that led to this situation. Why you focus singularly on one conclusion as though it was assured is a weird rhetorical position.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:28 pm to
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It was completely ignorant with regard to the exchanges addressed. So again, are you illiterate, high, or just didn't bother to read WTF you were responding to, dumbass?


Nah, you’ve made it clear that you are definitely the dumbass. You repeat things without reference, your description of the historical record is not accurate, and this lack of accuracy completely undermines your positions. You don’t know what you are talking about and are insisting that you do. Log off, for your own sake.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124667 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:36 pm to
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You repeat things without reference
No.
Sorry.
Don't deflect.

I'm beyond happy to discuss my assertions.

But FIRST, you claimed a dumbass response to a very specifically worded series of posts was ""rhetorical."" It wasn't. It was a dumbass, anti-intellectual response, after which you tried to play catch-up.

I'm sure you're used to getting away with that type BS in this thread. But you've been called on it here.

Let's address it.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:46 pm to
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I'm beyond happy to discuss my assertions.



Doesn't seem like it.

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But FIRST, you claimed a dumbass response to a very specifically worded series of posts was ""rhetorical."" It wasn't. It was a dumbass, anti-intellectual response, after which you tried to play catch-up.



Lol. Why did you use double-quotes? How are you this terrible at English?

I also named the rhetorical device I used. As in, it doesn't matter if your personal, particular position reflects the Russian position directly or not, what matters is that if that is an accurate description of the Russian position with respect to their sovereignty over their neighbors sovereignty, then NATO was absolutely correct to seek enlargement.

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I'm sure you're used to getting away with that type BS in this thread. But you've been called on it here.



Please. You gave one of the worst descriptions I've ever read of Zelensky and Putin's interactions with no reference to anything. You understand that there were results from that first meeting, and that there were a few key events you glossed over without a thought and being completely incorrect hasn't stopped you from furiously typing. You do that repeatedly, where your lack of reference for anything that occurred in history doesn't seem to exist for you. You retreat to solipsistic positions and don't realize it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124667 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:54 pm to
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Lol. Why did you use double-quotes?
Do these deflections work here normally?

you claimed a dumbass response to a very specifically worded series of posts was ""rhetorical."" It wasn't. It was a dumbass, anti-intellectual response, after which you tried to play catch-up.

Again, I'm sure you're used to getting away with that type BS in this thread. But you've been called on it here.

Let's address it.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5865 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:21 pm to
Nah you’re just a little bitch that enjoys trolling which is really sad to be honest. I bet you are either a little immature college kid or you’re a sad middle age shite who has no career or anyone that loves him so you spread your bullshite wherever you can. You’re also either gay or haven’t been laid in years, if ever.
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