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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:54 pm to JayDeerTay84
Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:54 pm to JayDeerTay84
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You can keep saying they are collapsing but it doenst make it true. Just like they apparently ran out of bombs, men, missiles, ammo, guns etc last year. Yet, here we are....
1. How is Russia selling the amount of natural gas it used to? Volume way down. It isn't going to China and India via pipelines any more than the pre 2022 in the pissant pipeline to China.
2. Russia had to stop exporting Diesel, which was their most profitable export. This also means that Russia has much lower oil production and refining isn't operating at anywhere near efficient levels.
3. Price of oil is way down after 2nd quarter 2022 panic of commodity traders. It sold at a net loss for full quarter, and at breakeven for months prior and months afterwards.
BTW, that Zeihan fellow is full of crap in his assessment of commodities. Ireland doesn't supply bauxite to Russia and it is wells sanding up with shutin wells, not plugged up pipelines. All the restored oil/gas production was funded by the World Bank/IMF to keep Russia stable.
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:55 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
wow, this money laundering scheme still has legs
Posted on 10/1/23 at 3:19 pm to theunknownknight
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wow, this money laundering scheme still has legs
You don’t even know what money laundering is, incel dipshit. It’s another term you and your 4 Chan buddies bandy around while sharing conspiracy theories during your Radio Shack shifts.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 10/1/23 at 3:19 pm to RuLSU
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or EU membership and "security guarantees."
AFAIK, the EU has some criteria before a member can officially be a member. I wonder if they actually meet all the requirements first or if the EU throws that all out.
If they're allowed in, that would be a big frick you to Serbia who's been waiting and getting screened by the EU since...forever
Posted on 10/1/23 at 3:35 pm to HonorThyWarEagle
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AFAIK, the EU has some criteria before a member can officially be a member. I wonder if they actually meet all the requirements first or if the EU throws that all out.
If they're allowed in, that would be a big frick you to Serbia who's been waiting and getting screened by the EU since...forever
Ukraine has been given a checklist. Serbia hasn't been able to complete the checklist given to it. A number of other nations have applied and not met criteria yet
Posted on 10/1/23 at 3:57 pm to CitizenK
Speaking of Serbia: in the past week, NATO just prevented another war in Kosovo, as Serbia would have invaded without the KFOR presence there.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:01 pm to CitizenK
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Ukraine has been given a checklist.
I know, i'm just intrigued by the EU membership process: it's so complicated and somewhat interesting in a weird way?
I don't think negotiations will start anytime soon but it's very intriguing to talk about for sure
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CitizenK
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:05 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Speaking of Serbia: in the past week, NATO just prevented another war in Kosovo, as Serbia would have invaded without the KFOR presence there.
BBC News Article
Seems like these clashes were in the making since last year
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:22 pm to REG861
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You don’t even know what money laundering is, incel dipshit. It’s another term you and your 4 Chan buddies bandy around while sharing conspiracy theories during your Radio Shack shifts.
You sound upset. You should probably consider not living life being a useful idiot.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:47 pm to JayDeerTay84
I don't think very many posters here enjoy these pissing contests cluttering up the board.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:49 pm to lsulaker
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I really wish Ukraine was making gains so we could get away from the personal attacks. Sadly this is what the thread has devolved into.
Real information and analysis is hard to come by. Pissing contests are easy, but generally empty and useless.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:55 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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NATO has never admitted a member who was in a current conflict or war. Especially not a country in a war with Russia. Also the amount of people who care about the war or Ukraine dwindles by the day. It’s a stalemate and it’s probably not going to change. 30 F-16’s aren’t going to change it. 100 M-1 tanks aren’t going to change it.
The new Russia-Ukraine border will be almost exactly where it was Jan 1 2023, a whole lot of cash and bodies wasted to move it so little you would need a magnifying glass to spot it on the map.
To put it into perspective since the start of the counter offensive Ukraine has recaptured an area roughly the size of the city limits of Baton Rouge.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 5:17 pm to WhereisAtlanta
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To put it into perspective since the start of the counter offensive Ukraine has recaptured an area roughly the size of the city limits of Baton Rouge.
How much land has Russia taken since they launched the Feb 22 attack. Certainly not near as much as they took in 2014.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 6:37 pm to doubleb
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The Prime Minister of Poland, Mateusz Morawiecki during a Speech earlier today spoke directly to Ukraine President Zelensky urging him not to Establish any Close-Ties with Germany and to remember who has provided the most Support to Ukraine; he further stated that Germany will always Side with Russia over the Central European Community.
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In September, the Russians released a record number of "Shahed" UAVs - 521.
The previous record was in May 2023 – 413 kamikaze drones.
Summer attacks were less intense: in June – 197, in July – 246, in August – 167.
This calculation was announced by military observer Oleksandr Kovalenko.
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??President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan criticized the EU for the fact that his country has been waiting so long to join it.
He said this during a speech in the Turkish parliament.
Erdogan emphasized that Turkey "no longer expects anything from the European Union, which made us wait at its door for 40 years
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State Duma deputies proposed to introduce criminal penalties in the Russian analog of The Sims game
Deputy Yana Lantratova suggested adding criminal penalties to the game. Also in "Russian The Sims" should be raised the problem of corruption, and it is also necessary to add taxes, payment of utilities, loans and marriage.
Among the locations should be not only cities, but also villages, the deputy
said. The deputies themselves asked to make a Russian analog of the Sims with "traditional values" because they believe that the original game promotes LGBT.
LINK
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:32 pm to StormyMcMan
LOL
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In the 20 months of Russia’s wider war on Ukraine, the Ukrainian army has captured around 200 of Russia’s T-72B3 tanks.
The T-72B3, a product of Uralvagonzavod in Nizhny Tagil, is one of Russia’s newer tanks. And unlike, say, the T-64BV, the T-80U or the T-72AMT, Ukrainian industry doesn’t have much experience with the type.
So when a Ukrainian tanker with the callsign “Kochevnik” ran into problems with his captured Russian T-72B3—problems local expertise couldn’t immediately solve—he called Uralvagonzavod tech support. And incredibly, the help line actually helped.
Militarnyi captured Kochevnik’s calls on video.
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Kochevnik serves in the Ukrainian army’s 54th Mechanized Brigade, which fights around Kramatorsk in eastern Ukraine and operates mostly Soviet-vintage equipment including T-64 tanks and BMP fighting vehicles. It also owns some of Ukraine’s ex-Russian T-72B3s.
Kochevnik was trolling the Russians, mostly. But his gripes with his 45-ton, three-person tank were real. The tank had been spewing oil. Its compressors weren’t working. The electrical turret-rotation mechanism kept failing, forcing the crew to rotate the turret with a hand crank.
LINK
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:39 pm to Pendulum
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So what happens when Serbia goes into Kosova? Is this how Russia starts its own proxy war with NATO?
Don’t know what happens here, but find the accumulation of contention around this region interesting and potentially problematic on a larger scale. This, Transinistra, Belarus/Poland, drones landing in Romania, now the elections in Slovakia (although not a physical contention).
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:02 pm to StormyMcMan
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The Prime Minister of Poland, Mateusz Morawiecki during a Speech earlier today spoke directly to Ukraine President Zelensky urging him not to Establish any Close-Ties with Germany and to remember who has provided the most Support to Ukraine; he further stated that Germany will always Side with Russia over the Central European Community.
Sound advice from where would know well.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:12 pm to DabosDynasty
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quote:The Prime Minister of Poland, Mateusz Morawiecki during a Speech earlier today spoke directly to Ukraine President Zelensky urging him not to Establish any Close-Ties with Germany and to remember who has provided the most Support to Ukraine; he further stated that Germany will always Side with Russia over the Central European Community. Sound advice from where would know well
I do wonder about the long term political consequences in Germany. They were laughing at Trump when he warned them not to get too cozy with the cheap Russian gas. Now their demos and economy are tanking. Germans want to manufacture and that segment is going away.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:18 pm to DabosDynasty
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The Prime Minister of Poland, Mateusz Morawiecki during a Speech earlier today spoke directly to Ukraine President Zelensky urging him not to Establish any Close-Ties with Germany and to remember who has provided the most Support to Ukraine; he further stated that Germany will always Side with Russia over the Central European Community.
The wise words of George Washington makes sense more and more each day…
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Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.
The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.
Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government, the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.
Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?
It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:42 pm to XenScott
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I do wonder about the long term political consequences in Germany. They were laughing at Trump when he warned them not to get too cozy with the cheap Russian gas. Now their demos and economy are tanking. Germans want to manufacture and that segment is going away.
They will Germany once again. Their populace will eventually have enough and the passive postwar Germany will no longer be so passive. I personally believe the African and Muslim immigration will be one of the flashpoints in the future. One domino falls and the rest will follow.
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