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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:30 am to
Russian tanks are fooked because they didn't invest in fuel efficiency. They gonna run out of gas baws and it's gonna be a free for all.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:31 am to
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They are being downvoted and called out because of the pro-Russian tone in their post.


Link
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98875 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:34 am to
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nobody on here has claimed Ukraine is winning or is gonna win


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Russian tanks are fooked because they didn't invest in fuel efficiency. They gonna run out of gas baws and it's gonna be a free for all.


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Abstract Queso Dip




Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:35 am to
The fuel efficiency problem for the Russian military is perhaps exacerbated by a failure to make deficiencies known to Putin for fear of receiving his wrath.

“Generals, are we prepared to go to war?” - Putin

“Yes, sir!” [hides food and fuel inventories at the bottom of stack papers]

“What was that?” - Putin

“Oh, nothing.”
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
2732 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:37 am to
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I predict Russia will keep going until Ukraine is all theirs, they install the puppet government everyone expects them to install, and for all intents and purposes, Ukraine becomes Russia lite.


I hope you are wrong and I'm not convinced that you are. I hope Ukrainians can wage a guerilla war until the cost and duration of the war is too much for Russia. I hope Russia's economy collapses and the pushback at home is too much for Putin.
This post was edited on 3/13/22 at 11:46 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38223 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:38 am to
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Ah the good ole days from 2004 when people were called "Sadaam sympathizers" for being against the war to "find the WMDs *wink wink*"


That’s funny because Putin is fabricating pretexts for invading just like Iraq and you are totally ok with it this time.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3951 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:40 am to
Making multiple false equivalencies in the same post, bold strategy lol
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 8:40 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139037 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:41 am to
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Nobody is getting downvoted or called out because they are listing military facts and nobody on here has claimed Ukraine is winning or is gonna win They are being downvoted and called out because of the pro-Russian tone in their post. They are almost excited to talk about how powerful Russia is how Ukraine should just give up. They are rooting for Russia without having the courage to say it (a few have outright said it), it’s sick. Nobody believes the Ukrainian military can win this war but we like to celebrate when the victims of this aggression have some success. Rooting for those being oppressed is human nature.

The default position around here is questioning favorable news, even outlandish and obvious pro-Ukrainian propaganda, is considered "a pro-Russian tone".
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105472 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:49 am to
Ukrainians are uploading tik tok videos on how to drive abandoned Russian vehicles LINK
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34780 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:50 am to
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Nobody is getting downvoted or called out because they are listing military facts and nobody on here has claimed Ukraine is winning or is gonna win They are being downvoted and called out because of the pro-Russian tone in their post.


Or you could just do what I do and downvote them because they are a Clemson fan....
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40199 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:52 am to
apparently being skeptical of any news trickling in labels you a commie around here.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5722 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:53 am to
Ukrainian authorities say citizens don't need to declare captured Russian tanks and military equipment for tax purposes
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40896 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:53 am to
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Wasn’t Iraq’s army considered Top 10 in the world at the time?



Prior to Desert Storm, I believe it had one of the largest tank armies in the world.

However, like Women's basketball, there is quite a drop off from the #1 seed to #5 to #10.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105472 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:53 am to
And the German army is posting antitank missile how to videos LINK
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:57 am to
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That’s funny because Putin is fabricating pretexts for invading just like Iraq and you are totally ok with it this time.
It seems the Putin apologists have accepted the Ukrainian genocide of Russians , Nazi leaders ( Jewish President) , nuclear program , etc....that Russia has proffered.


Only if they were so vigilant about questioning Russian propaganda which has caused the senseless thousands of deaths.
Posted by Palantir
I've been a Columbia House
Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:59 am to
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The default position around here is questioning favorable news, even outlandish and obvious pro-Ukrainian propaganda, is considered "a pro-Russian tone".
And the default position of those that are skeptical are that everyone are corporate media consuming sheep who don't know anything.

This cycle will never end because almost daily, someone will say something like "careful, you'll be called a Putin fanboy" and it begins yet another 5 page argument about the same thing again and again. It's a daily occurrence now.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19174 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:59 am to
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Palmetto98
Dude if you’re on the Russian payroll or something, just save us some time and admit it. If not, I suggest taking a break and reassessing your position.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87510 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:00 am to
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The default position around here is questioning favorable news, even outlandish and obvious pro-Ukrainian propaganda, is considered "a pro-Russian tone".



I really really don't think this is true

The main posters in this thread regularly joke about how the Ghost of Kiev is fake, how the equipment and lives lost by Russia is probably 1/2 of the Ukraine estimates, etc.

Honestly, I haven't seen anyone make a thoughtful Russia counterpoint (as in, Russia is likely to eventually succeed, Russia is holding back, etc.) that didn't get upvotes/agreement.

I think the demand for neocons clamoring for war exceeds the supply by a lot, both here and elsewhere. It's simply not a dominant or even significant minority viewpoint. I have said I think that could change, as Putin changes tactics and the videos of bombed out apartments and residential areas pile up. TBH I think many of you guys are guarding against that possible future and hence, you don't want to be pro-Ukraine or anti-Russia because you anticipate it evolving into a march for war. I understand the sentiment, but it results in weird conversation now because it's a fight against an argument very few are making.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:02 am to
Russia might be winning the war from a geographic standpoint. They are getting their arse kicked at home and abroad for support and their economy is forever destroyed. Putin thought the world would be apathetic. Instead Russia is gonna be like Somalia with a humanitarian crisis on hand. He will be removed.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 9:03 am
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23361 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:03 am to
I hoping that although Russia will win in Ukraine, that the less than optimum showing of his military and the nipple twisting the Russian economy is getting will give Putin pause to think about any moves against Poland or the Baltics anytime soon.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 9:04 am
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