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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:36 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:36 am to GeauxxxTigers23
ISW Update
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The Russian government quickly signaled on September 19 that Russian peacekeeping forces would not intervene in Azerbaijan’s military operation into Nagorno-Karabakh, despite Russia’s previous security ties to Armenia. The Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense (MoD) announced that Azerbaijani forces began a military operation into Nagorno-Karabakh on September 19.[1] Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov claimed that the Russian military is in contact with Armenian and Azerbaijani officials “at the highest level.”[2] Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova issued a general statement calling on “all sides” to stop the bloodshed, claimed that the Russian peacekeeping contingent in Nagorno-Karabakh continues to fulfil its assigned tasks, and cited the trilateral Russian-Armenian-Azerbaijani agreements signed in 2020 and 2022 as a path toward peace.
Russian and Ukrainian sources credited superior Ukrainian combat coordination, more precise artillery fire, and stronger electronic warfare (EW) systems for recent Ukrainian advances south of Bakhmut amid continued discussions of significant Russian losses in the area. Ukrainian personnel that participated in the recent liberation of Klishchiivka (7km southeast of Bakhmut) stated on September 18 that high morale, sufficient training, sufficient resources for artillery fire and drone strikes, good coherence between Ukrainian units, and detailed reconnaissance enabled Ukrainian forces to advance
Russian losses have reportedly significantly increased in western Zaporizhia Oblast in recent days, and the Russian military likely struggles with a lack of available combat-effective units that the Russian command is willing to laterally redeploy to this sector of the front. Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Spokesperson Colonel Oleksandr Shtupun stated that Russian forces lost 313 personnel (likely a total of killed and wounded) in the Tavriisk direction on September 18, including western Zaporizhia Oblast. Shtupun stated that this is significantly higher than Russian losses during the previous two days when Russian forces lost roughly 200 personnel each day.[17] Shtupun stated that Russian Airborne (VDV) forces are conducting defensive operations in the Tavriisk direction (likely in western Zaporizhia Oblast) and that “Storm-Z” detachments with convict recruits have arrived to act as “cover” for VDV units, possibly referring to the need to cover the VDV units during a potential withdrawal.
Russian forces conducted a series of Shahed-131/-136 drone and ballistic missile strikes on Ukrainian rear areas on September 19. Ukrainian military officials stated that Russian forces launched 31 drones from Krasnodar Krai and 1 Iskander-M ballistic missile from occupied Crimea and that Ukrainian forces shot down 28 drones.[20] The Ukrainian State Service for Emergency Situations reported that Russian drones hit industrial warehouses in Lviv, and the Ukrainian General Staff reported that the Russian Iskander missile hit Kryvyi Rih, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu met with Iranian Armed Forces General Staff Chief Major General Mohammad Bagheri in Tehran, Iran on September 19. Shoigu and Bagheri discussed Russian–Iranian bilateral military cooperation and the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh, Syria, and Afghanistan.[23] Shoigu stated that Russian–Iranian military relations are developing “dynamically and positively.”[24] A Kremlin-affiliated Russian milblogger claimed that the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) planned Shoigu’s visit to Tehran in advance and that it was not coordinated with Azerbaijan’s escalation in Nagorno-Karabakh.[25] The milblogger also claimed that Shoigu aimed to expand military-technical cooperation with Iran and hypothesized that Russia may be interested in expanding Iranian Shahed drone production on Russian territory.[26]
The Kremlin continues efforts to strengthen its control of the Russian information space ahead of the September 2024 Russian presidential elections. The Russian government announced a ban on services that provide virtual mobile numbers, which includes temporary numbers that individuals can use to sign up for anonymous social media accounts without using their personnel credentials, starting on September 1, 2024.[27] This measure likely aims to crack down on anonymous Telegram accounts that criticize the Kremlin and allows the Kremlin to better control the Russian information space. Announcing this measure a year ahead of its implementation is likely a soft rollout designed to gauge a possible information space reaction to the announcement and allow time to soften or strengthen the measure as the implementation and presidential elections approach. The Russian government will reportedly provide a list of alternative services to allow individuals to anonymously sign up for social media accounts, but it is very unlikely that these alternatives will allow individuals to maintain a similar degree of anonymity from the Russian government as existing virtual mobile number services currently afford.[28]
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky delivered a speech at the United Nations on September 19.[29] ISW will cover Zelensky’s trip to the United States after his upcoming visit to Washington, D.C.
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Key Takeaways:
The Russian government quickly signaled on September 19 that Russian peacekeeping forces would not intervene in Azerbaijan’s military operation into Nagorno-Karabakh, despite Russia’s previous security ties to Armenia.
Russian and Ukrainian sources credited superior Ukrainian combat coordination, more precise artillery fire, and stronger electronic warfare (EW) systems for recent Ukrainian advances south of Bakhmut amid continued discussions of significant Russian losses in the area.
Russian losses have reportedly significantly increased in western Zaporizhia Oblast in recent days, and the Russian military likely struggles with a lack of available combat effective units that the Russian command is willing to laterally redeploy to this sector of the front.
Russian forces conducted a series of Shahed-131/-136 drone and ballistic missile strikes on Ukrainian rear areas on September 19.
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu met with Iranian Armed Forces General Staff Chief Major General Mohammad Bagheri in Tehran, Iran on September 19.
Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast but did not advance on September 19.
Ukrainian forces conducted offensive operations in at least two sectors of the front on September 19 and advanced along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
A Latvian company has reportedly been exporting chips and microcircuits to Russian defense industrial base (DIB) companies despite international sanctions designed to prevent Russia from importing such components.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:48 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Are you seriously contending that our economy is not in an inflationary state? Or, that we aren’t in out of control deficit spending? Actually, it’s not even arguable that we have drained the Treasury. We are spending money we don’t have. And you Zelensky fanboys want us to continue to send them 100s of billions of dollars? At a time when Russia couldn’t beat Vanderbilt and Western Europe is more than capable of handling their own affairs?
You don't get to bundle one salient point with three pieces of bullshite and call it a gourmet meal.
Sure, we're in an inflationary period-- that's a given. Most of the world, aside from the fast developing Chinese death spiral, is in an inflationary period that's going to persist at some level for a decade.
This isn't sudden, new, inefficient government spending that's draining our treasury-- this is already accounted for spending that's already been done. Claim budgetary poverty if you will, but this isn't funding new debt. This is already cooked into the books, not 'Oh, let's tack on another 120B'-- the money that's doing this is pennies on a reallocated dollar that's already been spent, or budgeted to be spent.
We haven't sent '100s of billions'-- we've sent *a* hundred billion-- and even all that hasn't gotten off the ground yet- in already paid for materials, that we shifted from planning to dispose of, to letting the Ukranians do so in the bodies of Russian soldiers.
This is just rewrapped Orange Man Bad politics, in an Old Man Bad wrapper. A shame, really, to stoop to the Left's level.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 12:49 am
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:16 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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If the status quo must be kept then the Europeans need to pay homage to daddy on a regular basis and there should be a joint statement from all the leaders of European nations delivered from the White House lawn that the United States is indeed their daddy.
European governments pretty much already do this.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:54 am to crazy4lsu
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
20 September 2023
Since 15 September 2023, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have secured the villages of Klishchiivka and Andriivka, approximately 8km to the south of the Donetsk Oblast town of Bakhmut.
This tactical success brings Ukrainian forces closer to the T 05-13 road, one of the main supply routes into Bakhmut from the south. However, Russia continues to hold the railway line which runs along an embankment between Klishchiivka and the T 05-13, creating a readily defendable obstacle.
Recent redeployments of Russian airborne forces from Bakhmut to Zaporizhzhia in southern Ukraine have likely weakened Russia's defences around Bakhmut.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
20 September 2023
Since 15 September 2023, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have secured the villages of Klishchiivka and Andriivka, approximately 8km to the south of the Donetsk Oblast town of Bakhmut.
This tactical success brings Ukrainian forces closer to the T 05-13 road, one of the main supply routes into Bakhmut from the south. However, Russia continues to hold the railway line which runs along an embankment between Klishchiivka and the T 05-13, creating a readily defendable obstacle.
Recent redeployments of Russian airborne forces from Bakhmut to Zaporizhzhia in southern Ukraine have likely weakened Russia's defences around Bakhmut.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:54 am to crazy4lsu
The Karabakh Armenians have surrendered. They really had no choice.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:24 am to GOP_Tiger
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#Karabakh update:
• Ceasefire declared as separatists called Artsakh surrendered
• Armenian separatists will disband their forces, disarm themselves, return heavy equipment
• Armenian republic forces will return to their homeland
• Armenian residents of Karabakh will meet the Azerbaijani officials tomorrow to discuss the issues of reintegration based on the Constitution and laws of the Republic of Azerbaijan.
• Russian peacekeepers will coordinate the deal
LINK
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Smoke curtain in the Naftova harbor area in Inkerman, temporarily occupied Crimea.
It is here that the main oil depot of the Black Sea Fleet is located, where millions of tons of fuel are stored.
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Saboteurs blew up two planes and a helicopter in the Moscow region, - GUR.
- An-148, Il-20 and Mi-28N.
Previously, the helicopter was involved in repelling a UAV towards Moscow
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Footage from the crash site of a russian fighter jet in the Voronezh region appeared online.
LINK
ETA
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Poland will expand the list of banned products if Ukraine escalates the grain conflict, said Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki.
He added that his country "has done a lot for Ukraine" and therefore expects that its interests "will be understood".
LINK
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 6:38 am
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:52 am to StormyMcMan
Ukraine Confirms Missile Attack in Crimea – Partisan HQ Says Russia’s Black Sea Fleet Command Center Hit
Ukraine's National Resistance Center said that in Crimea, the main command post of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, near Belbek airfield, was hit by Ukrainian missiles on Wednesday morning.
by Kyiv Post | September 20, 2023, 2:38 pm
Kyiv confirmed that Ukrainian missiles were behind explosions on Wednesday near a Russian airfield in occupied Crimea.
In a comment to Kyiv Post, spokesperson of the Main Intelligence of Ukraine (HUR), Andriy Yusov, said: “Missile strikes are being launched on the military facilities of the invaders in the temporarily occupied Ukrainian Crimea.”
“The planned work of the Security and Defense Forces of Ukraine continues.”
Ukraine’s National Resistance Center (NRC) said that the “main command post of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation” had been hit.
Ukraine's National Resistance Center said that in Crimea, the main command post of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, near Belbek airfield, was hit by Ukrainian missiles on Wednesday morning.
by Kyiv Post | September 20, 2023, 2:38 pm
Kyiv confirmed that Ukrainian missiles were behind explosions on Wednesday near a Russian airfield in occupied Crimea.
In a comment to Kyiv Post, spokesperson of the Main Intelligence of Ukraine (HUR), Andriy Yusov, said: “Missile strikes are being launched on the military facilities of the invaders in the temporarily occupied Ukrainian Crimea.”
“The planned work of the Security and Defense Forces of Ukraine continues.”
Ukraine’s National Resistance Center (NRC) said that the “main command post of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation” had been hit.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 6:53 am
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:15 am to GOP_Tiger
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The Karabakh Armenians have surrendered. They really had no choice.
I had no real understanding of the situation involving the Armenians and the Azerbaijanis except that it opened the possibility of two Russian wars going on simultaneously. Fortunately, Malcontent News put out an article yesterday that summarizes the situation. If you need a little more context, as I did, this may be informative.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:17 am to cypher
It appears taking out that S400 has opened up the skies of Crimea a bit
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:22 am to StormyMcMan
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Ukrainian special services may have been responsible for a military operation against a Wagner-backed militia in Sudan, according to a CNN investigation published Sept. 19.
An unnamed Ukrainian military source told CNN that the operation, which involved a series of drone strikes and a ground operation, was conducted by "non-Sudanese military."
The source also said that “Ukrainian special services were likely responsible.”
The attacks targeted the Wagner-backed militia Rapid Support Forces (RSF), which has been fighting the Sudanese army for control of the country since April.
CNN's investigation did not find conclusive proof that Kyiv was behind the operation, but did obtain video footage showing "the hallmarks of Ukrainian-style drone attacks."
The strikes began on Sept. 8, two days after the Wagner mercenary organization sent several trucks loaded with weapons to an RSF garrison. Drones deployed in at least eight of the strikes were the same as those widely used by Ukrainian forces, and the drone controller featured Ukrainian text.
Experts consulted in the investigation also told CNN that the tactics used in the strikes reflect Ukrainian military patterns.
However, some officials consulted doubted the source's claim.
A top-ranking Sudanese military official told CNN he did not believe the claim and that he had "no knowledge of a Ukrainian operation in Sudan."
Similarly, multiple U.S. officials responded to the reports with surprise and skepticism.
Kyiv has not claimed responsibility for the operation in Sudan.
The Wagner Group's involvement in African conflicts has been linked to the Russian government's efforts to finance its war in Ukraine. The organization's brutality in several African countries, including Sudan, has brought international sanctions on Wagner leaders.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:25 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Are you seriously contending that our economy is not in an inflationary state? Or, that we aren’t in out of control deficit spending? Actually, it’s not even arguable that we have drained the Treasury. We are spending money we don’t have. And you Zelensky fanboys want us to continue to send them 100s of billions of dollars? At a time when Russia couldn’t beat Vanderbilt and Western Europe is more than capable of handling their own affairs?
You are truly a sucker for the Stupid Phucker and his always wrong MacGregor.
What 100's of billions? Other than 2 Patriot batteries, we are sending retired weapons. Pull A Part car parts type stuff, after putting spiffing up with new basically grease and lube oil. Yes, we have sent some billions but this is actually far less expensive than having to fight Russia in Baltic States, which it's general have said are targets for Russian expansion.
More like Turdroller than Tideroller
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:28 am to GOP_Tiger
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The Karabakh Armenians have surrendered. They really had no choice.
The equivalent of Donbas surrendering to Ukraine.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:30 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Frankly, Europe is an uncivilized backwards arse place that can’t even defend their own people.
Damn, you’re ate up.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 8:14 am to LSU7096
How many of the down voters have lived abroad and have 1st hand knowledge of their behaviors and attitude towards our USA? They expect and demand protection yet criticize the Country and men protecting them continually while letting US taxpayers subsidize their their defense with our forward deployed troops.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 8:17 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Many RINO's and groomers in here won't agree that great assessment.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:44 am to LSU7096
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How many of the down voters have lived abroad and have 1st hand knowledge of their behaviors and attitude towards our USA?
Being given a Green Card is considered the "Golden Ticket" among many Europeans and Russians
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:04 am to LSU7096
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They expect and demand protection yet criticize the Country and men protecting them continually while letting US taxpayers subsidize
Baton Rouge is just like this.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:57 am to LSU7096
How am I just learning about this Ashton-Cirillo thing
What a clown show.
What a clown show.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:26 pm to Pettifogger
Ukrainian defenders strike Russian Black Sea Fleet's command post in Sevastopol
VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — Wednesday, 20 September 2023, 18:00
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have confirmed that they successfully attacked the command post of the Russian Black Sea Fleet near Sevastopol on the morning of 20 September.
Source: Directorate of Strategic Communications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (StratCom)
Quote: "The Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully attacked the command post of the occupiers' Black Sea Fleet near Verkhniosadove near the temporarily occupied city of Sevastopol on the morning of 20 September. Glory to the Armed Forces of Ukraine!"
Background: The media and Telegram channels reported on a strike at a military unit near temporarily occupied Sevastopol.
Ukrainska Pravda
VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — Wednesday, 20 September 2023, 18:00
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have confirmed that they successfully attacked the command post of the Russian Black Sea Fleet near Sevastopol on the morning of 20 September.
Source: Directorate of Strategic Communications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (StratCom)
Quote: "The Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully attacked the command post of the occupiers' Black Sea Fleet near Verkhniosadove near the temporarily occupied city of Sevastopol on the morning of 20 September. Glory to the Armed Forces of Ukraine!"
Background: The media and Telegram channels reported on a strike at a military unit near temporarily occupied Sevastopol.
Ukrainska Pravda
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