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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:33 pm to
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than Ukraine took in their failed counteroffensive.


If the counter offensive failed, what is that little distraction down there by Tokamk? I guess Russia is about to pinch that off and roll it back? When can we expect total Russian victory?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:34 pm to
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If the counter offensive failed, what is that little distraction down there by Tokamk? I guess Russia is about to pinch that off and roll it back? When can we expect total Russian victory?


Per Stidhan it happened when Bakmuth fell snd Russia rolled West.
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:37 pm to
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Russia continues to make advances in the Kupyasnk direction.

It’s not being reported by mainstream media outlets. Russia is taking more territory each day than Ukraine took in their failed counteroffensive.


Checks maps.

Ukraine has very conservatively retaken 100km2

The offensive towards Kupyansk by Russia started in early August but I will use the 10th as this is when the Ukrainian evacuation order for the area was reported.

17 days at 100km2 = 1700km2

The entire Kupyansk direction is roughly 350km2.

1700km2 puts a 60km Russian frontline over 25km beyond the Oskil river.

Edit: Clarity/source

Source for estimates: https://soar.earth/maps/15362?pos=49.6016182824842%2C36.81596318660437%2C9.43
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:39 pm to
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I would have to assume those are the US versions and have the Chobham armor


Sans Chobham. In 2000 Shell Chemical, Geismar, had to tarp a Corken propylene compressor (small thing) when China looked a new unit that Shell opted not to operate. The reason was the ceramic in it was the same as in Chobham. State Dept would not allow that to be transferred to China. When we took over the unit, we could sell it to ANYONE in the USA but not to anyone in China. This was really stupid as no one would know that it had the ceramic inside if some agent from China would buy it from an equipment dealer. It was a standard design with materials of construction for oil free service.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:06 pm to
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Hard to read this without thinking a breakthrough at this point means a total collapse for the Russians.


I’m not expecting any total collapse or massive changes in control as we saw in the Kharkiv counter offensive or the kherson collapse at this point.

Ukraine is going to have to eat this elephant one bit at a time.

I still think the one place you could see rapid advances are in the south of kherson if Ukraine were able to cross the river in real numbers.

If Ukraine can get to Tokmak, I think that is as far south as they likely go in 2023. If they get to tokmak, I think they might try to push west to vasylivka before going any further south.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:10 pm to
Stidham posting about Russian successes again means UA is about to breakthrough and take Tokmak
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:17 pm to
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Stidham8

Have you learned how to read maps yet?
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Ukraine is going to have to eat this elephant one bit at a time.


They’re losing territory daily.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10330 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:27 pm to
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If the counter offensive failed, what is that little distraction down there by Tokamk? I guess Russia is about to pinch that off and roll it back? When can we expect total Russian victory?


This board is still clinging to hope after the failed counteroffensive has been dismantled. Manpower is running lower week by week.

Meanwhile Russia is closer to taking Kupyansk.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:30 pm to
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Stidham8

Have you learned how to read maps yet?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13312 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:37 pm to
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board is still clinging to hope after the failed counteroffensive has been dismantled


Didn't answer my question. Again.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:39 pm to
He won't.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10330 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:43 pm to
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Stidham posting about Russian successes again means UA is about to breakthrough and take Tokmak


I’ve been posting about the utterly failed counteroffensive going on 3 months now.

The delusion still lives strong here.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:44 pm to
Have you learned how to read maps yet?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28547 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:10 pm to
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This board is still clinging to hope after the failed counteroffensive has been dismantled. Manpower is running lower week by week. Meanwhile Russia is closer to taking Kupyansk.

Stidham coming back is the confirmation I was waiting on. The Russians are on the run!
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:11 pm to
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Stidham coming back is the confirmation I was waiting on. The Russians are on the run!

Is this a joke, or does this guy have a track record of terrible takes?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:14 pm to
His reputation precedes him.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:40 pm to
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His reputation precedes him.


It's as if he received a direct order from the Kremlin to try to shift the conversation whenever Russia/s forces in an area are collapsing
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45550 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:40 pm to
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Stidham8


Did you ever learn how to read a map?
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