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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:24 am to doubleb
Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:24 am to doubleb
Interesting if true
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Ukrainian GUR have managed to convince a Russian pilot of an Mi-8 AMTSH helicopter to land and hand over the aircraft and surrender himself to relevant authorise in Poltava area.
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It was a special operation of the GUR, which lasted more than 6 months.
Along with the pilot, there were 2 crew members on board who did not know where the helicopter was actually going.
The crew made a flight and transported parts to Su-27, Su-30SM jets.
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“A Russian combat helicopter Mi-8 together with the entire crew arrived in Ukraine and surrendered to the Armed Forces,” Yuriy Butusov reports. Russian air force related channels said the helicopter got lost due to navigational errors..
This looks to be the first deliberate surrender of such equipment by the Russian Federation.
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This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 8:26 am
Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:47 am to StormyMcMan
6 month operation for a helicopter?
Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:55 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Yeah…makes me wonder who the two crew members who “did not know where they were going” actually were.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:58 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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6 month operation for a helicopter?
wondering if it was more about the parts.....
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The crew made a flight and transported parts to Su-27, Su-30SM jets.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:01 am to adambomb
I just cannot see Ukraine causing a mass casualty event(s) in crimea, and Russia not making Kiev glow. A drone or rocket here and there is one thing, but that is totally different. Ymmv
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:19 am to tigeraddict
Would still probably be easier and cheaper to just buy them from a third party or manufacture the parts themselves.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:46 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Would still probably be easier and cheaper to just buy them from a third party or manufacture the parts themselves.
depends on what the part are. it was reported that the majority of the old russian jets that the Czech's gave Ukraine were mainly for parts salvage.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:10 am to Tiger985
quote:^^^^ posted unironically on a message board full of middle-aged men, many with 5 -digit post counts, about teenagers playing with a ball.
I can't imagine the time this guy puts into following this war.
It's unhealthy.
Poring over maps and strategizing like some general.
It's truly bizarre.
I think he needs help.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:18 am to ticklechain
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I just cannot see Ukraine causing a mass casualty event(s) in crimea,
I can't see Ukraine wanting to cause such an event unless it involves enemy soldiers. And still Russia isn't going to start lobbing Nukes. We've been over it many times on why they won't.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:19 am to StormyMcMan
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how do they deal with people who have collaborated primarily out of selfless interests or due to being trapped by circumstance as it appears in Oleksiy Levchenko's case from the article
They literally made a whole governmental divison to deal with this
The messy part is that there are a lot of Russians in Ukraine and a lot of Ukrainians in Russia.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:27 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Ukraine can make it untenable for Russia to hold onto Crimea. The question is whether they will or not.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:29 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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Just curious how many people here think Ukraine is getting back Crimea in the next 5 years.
War is unpredictable. If it were obvious how the conflict would end, then you'd have at least one side asking for a ceasefire.
It is certainly possible, though, to imagine a struggle for power in the Kremlin -- Prigozhin already showed us how possible that is. And a Russian struggle for power could obviously result in Ukraine retaking Crimea.
But I do believe that the questions of Putin and Crimea are tied together. One won't happen without the other.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 11:04 am to GOP_Tiger
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But I do believe that the questions of Putin and Crimea are tied together. One won't happen without the other.
Agree.. I don't see Crimea coming back to Ukraine as long as Putin is sitting in the drivers seat.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:03 pm to klrstix
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An Embraer Legacy 600 Business Jet going by RA-02795 which is Registered to Leader of the Wagner PMC Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin has reportedly Crashed in the Tver Region of Russia to the Northwest of Moscow resulting in the Death of all 4 who were Onboard; it is currently Unknown if Prigozhin was on the Aircraft when it Crashed.
Video of Wreckage
Ukrainska Pravda in English
@pravda_eng
10 dead as a result of a business jet crash in Russia. It belonged to Prigozhin and Russian media says he was there
Wagner sources claim that Russian air defence shot the plane down
Ukrainska Pravda in English
@pravda_eng
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There were 7 passengers including Prigozhin – RosAviation
Ukrainska Pravda in English
@pravda_eng
Prigozhin pronounced dead by ... Wikipedia
@sentdefender
An Embraer Legacy 600 Business Jet going by RA-02795 which is Registered to Leader of the Wagner PMC Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin has reportedly Crashed in the Tver Region of Russia to the Northwest of Moscow resulting in the Death of all 4 who were Onboard; it is currently Unknown if Prigozhin was on the Aircraft when it Crashed.
Video of Wreckage
Ukrainska Pravda in English
@pravda_eng
10 dead as a result of a business jet crash in Russia. It belonged to Prigozhin and Russian media says he was there
Wagner sources claim that Russian air defence shot the plane down
Ukrainska Pravda in English
@pravda_eng
·
There were 7 passengers including Prigozhin – RosAviation
Ukrainska Pravda in English
@pravda_eng
Prigozhin pronounced dead by ... Wikipedia
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:15 pm to cypher
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RUSSIAN CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY SAYS PRIGOZHIN WAS ON LIST OF PASSENGERS OF THE CRASHED PLANE - TASS
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:16 pm to cgrand
Just a higher window, apparently.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:17 pm to WestCoastAg
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And there it is
Wasn't ever a question of "IF" he was taken out, but "WHEN" and "HOW"
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:18 pm to cypher
Ooops. This should make things interesting.
Of course Russia will probably say it was accidental and jail a few military leaders who will be scape goats
Of course Russia will probably say it was accidental and jail a few military leaders who will be scape goats
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