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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:31 am to Hateradedrink
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:31 am to Hateradedrink
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, or they’re going to start a nuclear program.
They shouldnt have given up their nukes. Thats part of the reason they are where they are.
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 11:38 am
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
Is this a typo? They did in fact give up their nukes and this is infact why we are here
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:34 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Correct, which is why they’ll be in nato or have an “Israel” deal
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:37 am to Hateradedrink
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Is this a typo?
Yeah, I'll fix.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
Can you tell us what other countries with a US security guarantee are currently being invaded and which foreign power is invading them?
Posted on 8/13/23 at 1:26 pm to trinidadtiger
None of these chickenhawks have even been to Russia or Ukraine. They are so ignorant. This would have ended 18 months ago if not for the US MIC. It's reprehensible.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 1:26 pm to SirWinston
BTW happy Sunday everybody. May this war somehow end soon.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 1:29 pm to SirWinston
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None of these chickenhawks have even been to Russia or Ukraine.
As insane and offensive argument as the liberal women who say that men aren't allowed to have an opinion on abortion or white people aren't allowed to have an opinion on racism.
Trash argument from a trash poster.
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/13/23 at 1:49 pm to GOP_Tiger
Don’t look now but Mariupol is one tiny push from being under HIMARS fire control and Berdyansk isn’t too far off either. That’s going to really put Russia in a shitty spot logistically. Ukraine doesn’t have to physically make it to the Azov Sea to make things untenable for Russian forces to resist in that area.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 1:55 pm to SirWinston
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None of these chickenhawks have even been to Russia or Ukraine. They are so ignorant. This would have ended 18 months ago if not for the US MIC. It's reprehensible.
I was in Kyiv 2 months before the full scale invasion began. Do I win a prize?
Posted on 8/13/23 at 2:22 pm to LSUPilot07
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This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 8/13/23 at 2:37 pm to trinidadtiger
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trinidadtiger
Posted on 8/13/23 at 3:00 pm to Royal
Interview of Russian Major Tomov in Ukrainian captivity
"Major Tomov Yuri Anatolyevich, 10/18/1979, battalion commander 1822
talked about the losses, about the prospects of the Russian Federation in this war, about the attitude of local residents in the Kherson region towards them, as well as about the “Ukronazis” and, of course, about the previous place of service at the base for storing nuclear weapons
for some reason, the major estimates the training of his unit extremely low, and does not blame himself for being captured. says that there are a lot of refuseniks in his baht (500s)
this bat tried very hard to knock us out of the left bank of the Kherson region, but something did not go according to plan
nothing will happen to the major, no one will touch him with a finger, he tells everything as it is without any coercion
Original Telegram interview
Twitter Video
"Major Tomov Yuri Anatolyevich, 10/18/1979, battalion commander 1822
talked about the losses, about the prospects of the Russian Federation in this war, about the attitude of local residents in the Kherson region towards them, as well as about the “Ukronazis” and, of course, about the previous place of service at the base for storing nuclear weapons
for some reason, the major estimates the training of his unit extremely low, and does not blame himself for being captured. says that there are a lot of refuseniks in his baht (500s)
this bat tried very hard to knock us out of the left bank of the Kherson region, but something did not go according to plan
nothing will happen to the major, no one will touch him with a finger, he tells everything as it is without any coercion
Original Telegram interview
Twitter Video
Posted on 8/13/23 at 3:06 pm to LSUEnjoyer
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LSUEnjoyer
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Even if you assume that the Ukes will bring Himars right up to the front line (which they would only do out of absolute desperation) Mariupol still wouldn't be under "HIMARS fire control" even if the ukes take Staromylynivka which they will not do.
ETA just want this available in the event Ukraine does take the city
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 8/13/23 at 3:10 pm to StormyMcMan
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in the event Ukraine does take the city
Posted on 8/13/23 at 3:29 pm to SirWinston
considering how much you suck on these forums, I'm shocked you are a spitter
Posted on 8/13/23 at 3:37 pm to GOP_Tiger
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2) Waiting too long to start. Everyone originally expected the offensive to start in April, and it ended up being June, and that gave Russia more time to fortify its positions.
I don’t think starting earlier would have yielded any better results. The fact that Wagner could functionally rotate out entirely with no real change to the front makes me think Ukraine simply doesn’t have the tools for the job they face - not now and not back in April.
I do think Ukraine has pivoted to the correct strategy of trying to turn the land bridge into a functional island and to mount a siege similar to what they did to recapture kherson. I’m just not convinced it’s really feasible to truly isolate a land bridge.
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That said, I am much more optimistic about Ukraine's chances today than I was five days ago, mainly because I think that what's happening in South Kherson is going to change the whole picture.
Ageee with this. I’ve always thought any big success would come from opening a front in south kherson and west of melitopol. We’ll see if it’s doable. The way Russia has expanded its drone capacity makes me wonder if any big land grab is possible at this point without overwhelming numbers. And Ukraine will never have overwhelming numbers of men or equipment.
This does appear to be headed to a European DMZ situation absent regime change in one of the major parties to this conflict.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 4:53 pm to Hateradedrink
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I mean this is sort of a joke but Ukraine will have to get some meaningful security guarantees, or they’re going to start a nuclear program.
They got invaded by a nuclear power and couldn’t meaningfully retaliate because nukes. All they can do is try to kill them inside their own boarders.
I suspect that Ukraine has the knowledge and skill to build nuclear weapons. Hope it doesn't come to that.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 5:14 pm to Auburn1968
I would hope not. It would be curtains for that particular lat/long
Posted on 8/13/23 at 5:14 pm to StormyMcMan
It is 54 miles from Staromylynivka to Mariupol. The HIMARS would have to use the MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile System ( ATACMS) is a tactical ballistic missile. It has a range of up to 190 miles, which means it is in range now.
That would be able to hit the bridge also.
That would be able to hit the bridge also.
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LSUEnjoyer
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Even if you assume that the Ukes will bring Himars right up to the front line (which they would only do out of absolute desperation) Mariupol still wouldn't be under "HIMARS fire control" even if the ukes take Staromylynivka which they will not do.
ETA just want this available in the event Ukraine does take the city
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 5:42 pm
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