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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:50 pm to
Any updates since noon?
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:51 pm to
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A few analysts are starting to think the northern thing is a distraction, the southern action is the actual goal.


The southern AO has the rest of the offshore oil/gas fields not gained when they took Crimea. The Crimean water source and the southern half of the country has the intercountry pipelines and shale oil fields. This area also provides the land bridge to the Transdniestria separatist enclave in Moldova.

The majority of the things Putin really wants are in the southern part of Ukraine.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:51 pm to
seems so.. several pro-russian twitters showing video of the northern units; chechen and dudes from their far east with ancient soviet equipment. they're breaking down, running out of gas, doing stupid thunder runs and getting wrecked, etc. i was in the mechanized infantry.. what i'm seeing is a complete joke. their air force also seems to be just sitting out the northern advance also.

southern units are the more professional, better equipped etc.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:53 pm to
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You want to hear something funny about that TV station/antenna the Russians tried to hit? All they did was damage the base of the broadcast antenna. There was a good bit of smoke, but after it cleared the damn thing was still standing and Broadcasting.

I was wondering if that really took it out. It looked like all it did was hit the steel support structure. It didn't look like it did much damage at all and I wondered if it was still running.
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:53 pm to
So does this First Guards Tank Army turn west towards Odessa now?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:54 pm to
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southern units are the more professional, better equipped etc.

We have actually seen a stated goal for the Southern effort. Linking with Crimea. It seems as though the next step was to surround and lay siege to Mariupol. Once they had the city surrounded, citizens were given warning to evacuate because they intended to escalate the indiscriminate barrage that bad been going on.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:56 pm to
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So does this First Guards Tank Army turn west towards Odessa now?

I have seen rumors that there was a failed amphibious landing/invasion at Odessa. It is well defended, and the word was that some of the Russian Navy refused to land, stating it was akin to a suicide mission. I haven't gone looking for updates on that situation yet. OSINTDefender has some stuff about that.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 5:58 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:02 pm to
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It didn't look like it did much damage at all and I wondered if it was still running.

I saw that it was still able to broadcast. I never saw 100% confirmation that it was broadcasting. It definitely wasn't destroyed, at least not beyond a relatively easy repair.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103128 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:05 pm to
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Man I think Putin was just bored and wanted to play a real life game of Risk


LINK
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:09 pm to
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I saw that it was still able to broadcast. I never saw 100% confirmation that it was broadcasting. It definitely wasn't destroyed, at least not beyond a relatively easy repair.



I haven't seen anything saying it's broadcasting and they hit the building near the tower base that likely contained the transmitting equipment.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103128 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:11 pm to
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heard Parkinson’s for about a year now. And I realize the disease can be different in people, with different physical symptoms. But his speech and motor functions seem the same as always in footage that doesn’t look edited.


My sources say it’s Parkinson’s but they can be a bit shaky
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103128 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:15 pm to
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Russia lost another 25k troops and Ukraine is now milly rocking on dead bodies.


Holy shite if that’s true. Russia on pace to lose more in 2 weeks than the US lost in all of WW1 or Vietnam
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
13979 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:16 pm to
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They’re the most advanced in the world. The thing is it’s incredibly difficult to defend against an ICBM.

And my math was wrong originally. It’s 86% to stop all 7, not 59%.
That's only what we know about. Remember those tests about a decade ago where we tested shooting a satellite out of LEO? SpaceX has launched quite a few classified DOD payloads in the past few years.

Don't forget nations have every reason in the world to OVERstate their offensive capabilities but every reason in the world to UNDERstate their defensive capabilities.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:32 pm to
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I went to high school with that girl. She was a couple of grades older so never had any classes. Just saw her around.

She ended being 3rd in that competition so she must've done pretty well to bomb a question that badly and still do so well.



I remember that, her and the comp - Didnt go to school with her. I get they’re not exactly there for debate competition but good God it was embarrassing af.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478319 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:34 pm to
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What is it that’s so important in southern Ukraine compared to the capital?

Connecting Crimea to Russia-controlled areas
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38719 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:38 pm to
Rummy pulling a full on Russian blitz from the south. Knocked out both of my gifs like the ghost of Kiev
Posted by SiriusBraveFan
Member since Nov 2014
746 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:40 pm to
So is taking part of Eastern Ukraine regions that connect to Crimea, along with no NATO membership, what Putin would go for and accept if possible? Obviously we don't know what's in his head but is that the play?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:41 pm to
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So is taking part of Eastern Ukraine regions that connect to Crimea, along with no NATO membership, what Putin would go for and accept if possible? Obviously we don't know what's in his head but is that the play?

Then why the extended play for Kyiv?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478319 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:42 pm to
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So is taking part of Eastern Ukraine regions that connect to Crimea, along with no NATO membership, what Putin would go for and accept if possible?

That was always the guess, but then he started going for Kyiv and people started to question just how far West he was eyeing.

Odds are that's what Russia ends up with, possibly as far west as Kyiv, and they declare themselves champions of the world while their economy crashes and the oligarch class loses their wealth and reputation (to quote The Last Kingdom)
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 6:44 pm to
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Then why the extended play for Kyiv?



Kiev is the largest city, by quite a bit I think, in Ukraine so it will take longer. Plus, they are holding them by the nose at Kiev while they come north from Crimea.
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