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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:09 am to cypher
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:09 am to cypher
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merchant tanker (MT)
Actually it is motor tanker as opposed to steam tanker so either MT for a diesel engine or ST for steam turbine.
By the early 1980's there were very few steam turbine powered ships not US flagged. The US was still almost all steam turbine powered. Part of the reason is that US crews understood steam. The rest of the world, not as much
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Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:19 am to CitizenK
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#Putin introduced amendments to the State #Duma articles on informing the UN and the Council of Europe about the martial law and state of emergency in #Russia.
The amendments provide for Russia's refusal to inform the Council of Europe of its deviation from international treaties in terms of human rights in martial law and state of emergency.
LINK
This works in Russian law because in 2020 Putin signed a law allowing Russian legislation to trump international treaties
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#Warsaw plans to create a Polish-Ukrainian unification ostensibly to ensure the security of western #Ukraine, but in fact - for the subsequent occupation of this territory", Minister of Defense #Shoigu said
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I don't know why Russia continues to say Poland wants Ukrainian territory
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The optical and mechanical plant in Sergiyev Posad produced special purpose equipment
These included aviation sights, thermal imagers, homing missile heads, laser-type detection units, and optical observation devices.
It also manufactured night vision goggles, sights, binoculars and monoculars.
The plant in Sergiyev Posad, where the explosion occurred, has nothing to do with optics, pyrotechnics have been produced there for a long time, the governor of the region Vorobyov said.
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Ukrainian Air Forces rebases Su-24 bombers, which are carriers of long-range Storm Shadow and SCALP-EG cruise missiles, every 24 hours to protect them from russian missile attacks, - Bild.
The publication writes that in Ukraine, the entire network of Soviet-era airfields was restored and new ones were equipped.
Secret runways on highways are also used. Operational airfields are protected by IRIS-T and Patriot. The storage sites of the above-mentioned missiles are also under protection.
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Don't put too much stock into this one, but I have seen a few different accounts post that Tomov is missing
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Yesterday, a group of 18 Russian soldiers headed by Major Tomov, commander of 1882 Battalion, disappeared in the area of Kosachi Laheri, on the left bank of the Dnieper River. Tomov's group was reportedly ambushed after Ukrainians captured a radio station and requested "support".
The group apparently had mobile phones with detailed maps of Russian positions in the area.
Information about the incident was coming through all day yesterday, so we can bring more details now.
I suspect that we might soon see actual footage from the incident by Ukrainians if it was indeed a landing operation.
LINK
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:51 am to ruff fish
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Most likely the Wagners will go to Africa. There is a lot of work for them
That was mentioned a little, specifically Libya, but yes that’s part of why I find it interesting. Is the “I thought Putin was paying” some sort of excuse cover both to de-escalate with Poland and to get them into Africa without functionally saying more.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 8:28 am to ruff fish
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Well, consider already done and many times
You guys are bad. So bad that the last time you invaded Poland you had Germany go first and attacked them from the “back”.
Then ya’ll stood and watched as the Nazi tanks put down the Warsaw rebellion.
And you have the nerve to say Poland is soft?
Posted on 8/9/23 at 9:17 am to DabosDynasty
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Most likely the Wagners will go to Africa. There is a lot of work for them
That was mentioned a little, specifically Libya, but yes that’s part of why I find it interesting. Is the “I thought Putin was paying” some sort of excuse cover both to de-escalate with Poland and to get them into Africa without functionally saying more.
As for Poland and reassure it with de-escalation, I would not think so. They write there Poles on the border concentrated about 300 thousand fighters. The Wagners passed on the practical combat experience of the non-belligerent Belarus and went to Africa just to pump it up. And far from the fact that it will be Libya. In Niger (this state), it seems that a contract has been concluded with him. And in that country there were uranium deposits for nuclear power plants and a gas pipeline to the EU was planned for this country. The gas pipeline was planned as a replacement for the northern streams blown up by the US.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 9:27 am to doubleb
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You guys are bad. So bad that the last time you invaded Poland you had Germany go first and attacked them from the “back”.
Then ya’ll stood and watched as the Nazi tanks put down the Warsaw rebellion.
And you have the nerve to say Poland is soft?
Oh, stop pretending to be a virgin. It's like you guys are white and fluffy and you never do that. And the fact that you are pushing and forcing the Poles from Washington to fight and promising them part of the territory of Ukraine for this, because the Ukrainians are running out, don’t you think about it?
What about the fact that Poland cannot refuse the United States any political pressure if this decision is contrary to its national interests? Do you think this is a manifestation of hard?
Hungary, for example, stands out more or less harshly.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 9:30 am
Posted on 8/9/23 at 9:36 am to ruff fish
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Oh, stop pretending to be a virgin. It's like you guys are white and fluffy and you never do that. And the fact that you are pushing and forcing the Poles from Washington to fight and promising them part of the territory of Ukraine for this, because the Ukrainians are running out, don’t you think about it?
I’m not the one running g away from my history. You are.
Lest we not forget, Russia allied themselves with the Nazis.
They also waited until Japan was on life support to declare war and then came on like buzzards to pick their carcass.
Now you concoct some fairy tale. Get out of here with that. Russia is hated by Poland, Hungary, and all the others for good reasons. They are a ruthless country who stab people in the back and who will turn on as numbers to gain territory and power.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 11:37 am
Posted on 8/9/23 at 9:45 am to CitizenK
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The US was still almost all steam turbine powered. Part of the reason is that US crews understood steam.
A decade ago I was in a chemical plant that had added a large compressor and it was driven by a steam turbine built in 1940, for a US navy aircraft carrier. That really surprised me, I've never seen that before or since. Apparently the plant bought the turbine on the used equipment market. It was a great fit for what they needed and surprisingly efficient for a design that old. The US navy steam turbines of WWII were damn good for their time.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 9:52 am to doubleb
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’m not the one running g away from my history. You are.
Lest we not forget, Russia allied themselves with the Nazis.
They also waited until Japan was on life support to declare war and then came on like buzzards to pick their carcass.
Something you have a selective memory or education let us down. This is me about "Russia entered into an alliance with the Nazis"
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Now you concoct some fairy tale. Get out of here with that. Russia is gated by Poland, Hungary, and all the others for good reasons. They are a ruthless country who stab people in the back and who will turn on as numbers to gain territory and power.
Who are you writing to about the stab in the back? Satdam Hussein? Or the bombing of Yugoslavia?
Look at least the WIKI and then tell me what other country fought so much? For example Iran or maybe China?
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And how many years have passed since the Second World War, and the United States left the defeated Germany?
This list is endless. And Ukraine has been part of the territory of Russia since the formation of Russia. I assume that the phrase "Kievan Rus" does not tell you anything
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 9:54 am
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:18 am to Tigris
Agrilectric in Lake Charles has a rice hull fueled boiler to produce electricity for the market and its parent rice mill next door, along with excess steam.
They spent money on developing small rice hull fueled fluid bed boiler with a small steam turbine to produce 3 MW of electricity, Their target market was SE Asia. The problem with the market is that local there used rice hulls for cooking fires already. The steam turbine was from a WWII small ship, and had been originally tested not to trip with dynamite blowing up next to it.
VFD's for elctric motors have removed need for many small steam turbines and hydraulic motors.
As you definitely are aware, chemical plants and refineries try squeeze every bit of energy they can save
They spent money on developing small rice hull fueled fluid bed boiler with a small steam turbine to produce 3 MW of electricity, Their target market was SE Asia. The problem with the market is that local there used rice hulls for cooking fires already. The steam turbine was from a WWII small ship, and had been originally tested not to trip with dynamite blowing up next to it.
VFD's for elctric motors have removed need for many small steam turbines and hydraulic motors.
As you definitely are aware, chemical plants and refineries try squeeze every bit of energy they can save
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:28 am to ruff fish
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They write there Poles on the border concentrated about 300 thousand fighters.
I'm just going to go out on limb and say Poland did not put their 80% of their ENTIRE army on the border
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Active personnel 160,000+ (2022)[1]
Reserve personnel ~200,000 (2022, TDF)[2]
Deployed personnel 25,000 (2022)[3]
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And far from the fact that it will be Libya. In Niger (this state), it seems that a contract has been concluded with him. And in that country there were uranium deposits for nuclear power plants and a gas pipeline to the EU was planned for this country. The gas pipeline was planned as a replacement for the northern streams blown up by the US.
Are you saying Niger to the EU or Libya to the EU. Libya to the EU already exists.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 10:33 am
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:33 am to ruff fish
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As for Poland and reassure it with de-escalation, I would not think so. They write there Poles on the border concentrated about 300 thousand fighters. The Wagners passed on the practical combat experience of the non-belligerent Belarus and went to Africa just to pump it up.
Well Poland’s border presence has been a response to their behavior and provocation, and it’s justified. Why would they not with what Belarus and Russia have said and done?
Not a military guy, but it seems unlikely in this short amount of time Wagner, or anyone else for that matter, could whip an entire armed forces into shape.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:49 am to DabosDynasty
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:40 am to ColtRange
Ukrainian Defence Forces captured Russian soldiers in the Kherson region’s left bank
9 August, 2023
The Ukrainian military captured a group of Russian soldiers and officers on the left bank of the Kherson region.
A serviceman of the Russian Armed Forces and a blogger running the Trynadtsatiy Telegram channel reported on this.
According to the invader, a group of Russian troops stationed in one of the settlements on the left bank of the Dnipro River stopped communicating.
To check the situation in the absence of normal communication, a group of 16 soldiers led by Major Tomov, the commander of the 1822nd Battalion, left for the unit’s location.
As it became known later, Tomov and his group were ambushed and, presumably, captured.
Ukrainian Military Portal
9 August, 2023
The Ukrainian military captured a group of Russian soldiers and officers on the left bank of the Kherson region.
A serviceman of the Russian Armed Forces and a blogger running the Trynadtsatiy Telegram channel reported on this.
According to the invader, a group of Russian troops stationed in one of the settlements on the left bank of the Dnipro River stopped communicating.
To check the situation in the absence of normal communication, a group of 16 soldiers led by Major Tomov, the commander of the 1822nd Battalion, left for the unit’s location.
As it became known later, Tomov and his group were ambushed and, presumably, captured.
Ukrainian Military Portal
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:00 pm to CitizenK
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As you definitely are aware, chemical plants and refineries try squeeze every bit of energy they can save
Yeah, it's been my life for a few decades. There's a fairly good chance we've met or at least been at the same conferences based on your posts. You definitely know what you're talking about on the topics I know too.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:08 pm to ruff fish
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Something you have a selective memory or education let us down. This is me about "Russia entered into an alliance with the Nazis"
Ruff, are you saying Russia did not enter into the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in 1939?
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:22 pm to Tigris
I haven't been to any conferences but recently offered two refineries (1 is partial which was perviously offered to me in 2011 to move to Libya, bad timing!) and also bought a sorbitol plant from ADM. My partner was up there this week. I'll be there next week.
Edit - The WWII era steam turbines could take more RPM's than they would normally handle. Dad was on a cruiser (Nashville) in 1940 and they were sinking German subs a full year before WWII. They could travel at 45 knots and did so when responding to a call. That speed is well above what design said it could do.
Edit - The WWII era steam turbines could take more RPM's than they would normally handle. Dad was on a cruiser (Nashville) in 1940 and they were sinking German subs a full year before WWII. They could travel at 45 knots and did so when responding to a call. That speed is well above what design said it could do.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:04 pm to CitizenK
For the record, other than recent military or government, I've never heard turbine pronounced as tubyne. Instead everyone says tubin, including engineers from the UK who I've met.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:06 pm to Chromdome35
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Something you have a selective memory or education let us down. This is me about "Russia entered into an alliance with the Nazis"
Ruff, are you saying Russia did not enter into the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in 1939?
Of course she concluded. Just look who BEFORE concluded such agreements. And you will see that the whole of Europe at that time had already called out its own.
Stalin sent Molotov to sign this agreement last of all, hoping to avoid war.
In general, it was strange for me to read this from an American.
Then I have a counter question, but who financed Hitler all the time from the very beginning of his ascent until the end of WW2?
Are they American businessmen?
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:14 pm to StormyMcMan
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Are you saying Niger to the EU or Libya to the EU. Libya to the EU already exists.
If it exists, then you are right. I was not interested in the details of whether it exists now or may be in the future. In this case, it doesn't matter. It is important that in any case, a military coup in Niger can put an end to this entire project. Similar to the explosion of the Nord Stream pipelines
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