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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/5/23 at 1:22 am to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5716 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 1:22 am to
Footage from the Ukrainian USV that targeted the Russian tanker Sig off the Kerch Strait, with a hit on the waterline near the engine room.

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Flooded engine room of the Russian tanker Sig after taking a Ukrainian unmanned vehicle strike.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38369 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 1:44 am to
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The Obamas put the puppet president in office.
I doubt you're intentionally lying about this, and I wouldn't even call you troll at this point, but you are obviously under-informed about this conflict, and it gets old refuting the same easily discreditable shite again and again. It's just hard to give any weight to that POV when the arguments are continuously built on bullshite.
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
784 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 4:21 am to
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Buzz words? Remember when this thread claimed it was Russia blowing up the Nordstream when it was actually the West?


Buzz words - Words used across media mediums to catch attention and make it sound like the user has a deeper understanding of a subject when the opposite is usually the case.

Yes I remember, few in this thread claimed Russia did it. There was plenty of discussion on why Russia or Ukraine would have done it as well as how they may have. No conclusive consensus was reached, much as there has not been one produced by the wider world yet.

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This country has not fought a humanitarian war in near a century.


There is no such thing as a humanitarian war, this is an oxymoron.

Humanitarian aid or intervention can be provided in a war but they do not change the war to a more humane version. There is a case to be made that Western support of Ukraine falls outside of the definition of these but with the lack of Ukrainian aggression across pre-2014 Russian borders this would be fairly tough to back up.

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30639 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 6:15 am to
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Clusters bombs are being signed off in approval by the White House. The United States and its NATO Allies blew up Nordstream Pipeline. Those are war crimes


You wouldn't know a war crime if it bit you in the arse. Just mindlessly repeating something you read on the internet is a good way to look stupid.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4689 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 6:25 am to
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Ukraine has imprisoned and tortured American journalists


Are you referring to Gonzalo lira?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5716 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 6:44 am to
Ukraine declares six Russian ports 'war risk' area

by The Kyiv Independent news desk August 5, 2023 2:39 PM

Ukraine's Naval Forces officially declared on Aug. 4 the waters of Anapa, Novorossiysk, Gelendzhik, Tuapse, Sochi, and Taman, located in the Russian-controlled part of the Black Sea, as a "war risk" area.

This announcement follows a series of explosions in the Black Sea over the past few days, including an attack on the Russian landing vessel Olenegorskiy Gornyak, which was reportedly hit by a surface drone on Aug. 4.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:45 am to
AMERICA BAD

RUSSIA GOOD

PUTIN IS WITH US
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21019 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:51 am to
It's crazy that Ukraine can threaten Russian shipping better than Russia can threaten Ukrainian shipping.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42746 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:13 am to
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I doubt you're intentionally lying about this, and I wouldn't even call you troll at this point, but you are obviously under-informed about this conflict, and it gets old refuting the same easily discreditable shite again and again. It's just hard to give any weight to that POV when the arguments are continuously built on bullshite.


He needs to be ignored.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38221 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:40 am to
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It’s semantics


Lmao . You didn’t even realize he was elected during Trump, did you?. Oof.

But I’m sure the rest of your arguments are definitely not just as uninformed as that one.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 8:43 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5716 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:53 am to
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It's crazy that Ukraine can threaten Russian shipping better than Russia can threaten Ukrainian shipping.


I expect that there will eventually be packs of Ukrainian USVs hunting Russian military vessels anywhere in the Black Sea, especially those that launch missiles.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 8:56 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150419 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:57 am to
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Moron. Ukraine is a cesspool. The Obamas put the puppet president in office.

Go on, I bet you won’t admit that Ukraine is a country full of thugs and the Ukraine government captured tortured American journalists for posting YouTube videos.

Go on I bet you won’t admit we have no business going back on our agreement not putting NATO bases east of Germany.

Go on, admit it was who committed the war crime of plowing Nordstream.

Putin is a scumbag. But he’s not even Hussein.

This isn’t our fight. But it is, because the oligarchs who indoctrinate you are extracting riches from our tax dollars.

While y’all discuss tanks and brigades like you’re playing Solider hoping your team gets new toys.

While the White House approved civilian killing cluster bombs to be used.

Because that’s what modern foreign policy does-bomb the shite out of countries then go in and rebuild.
frick me I couldnt have made a better satirical post than this and you are 100% serious lmao
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 8:59 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38719 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:09 am to
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This a proxy war we have no business funding.


We’re spending pennies on the dollar for dead communist pigs.
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On top of that, Ukraine has imprisoned and tortured American journalists.

Russia disappears journalist. It’s where the tactic was perfected
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Clusters bombs are being signed off in approval by the White House.


Russia has been using cluster munitions and indiscriminately bombing civilian infrastructure.

Oh. And communist aren’t people, so who cares when subhuman communist die, or how they die?

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The United States and its NATO Allies blew up Nordstream Pipeline. Those are war crimes


No such thing as a war crime.

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To be fair, I don’t think you’re particularly evil, more of NPC that probably still has his Covid masks in case another “outbreak”

I think you’re literally retarded.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4689 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:37 am to
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And communist aren’t people, so who cares when subhuman communist die, or how they die?



I mean I'm rooting for Ukraine and all, but this is over the top. People grow up in systems that they have little to no control over and may not know anything different. Does not make them subhuman nor deserving of death.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38719 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:39 am to
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Does not make them subhuman nor deserving of death


Every single communist deserves a one way Pinochet helicopter ride.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16084 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:54 am to
The tanker carries the capacity of about 2.5 each US river tank barges if fully loaded. 6619 DWT with just over 7 US oil barrels per ton for likely cargo(s) being refined products. Say around 40,000 BBLS.

Ships which travel within the Black Sea for normal trade are usually small
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 10:29 am to
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We’re spending pennies on the dollar for dead communist pigs.


Another way of stating it is we are spending a billion per acre for them to get their land back, FFS Putin would have sold it back to them cheaper.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16084 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 10:36 am to
Wherever you learned arithmetic, it failed you
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4689 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:01 am to
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Wherever you learned arithmetic, it failed you


Agreed
Written July 12
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Assessment of Ukraine’s counteroffensive suggests it has retaken 253sq km (98sq miles) of its territory since June.

LINK

That's 62720 acres. So are a billion an acre just for 5 weeks $62,720,000,000,000.00 or just under 10x the global GDP
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:13 am to
Counteroffensive gains so far

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