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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/14/23 at 6:53 pm to notiger1997
Posted on 7/14/23 at 6:53 pm to notiger1997
I was living in the Central Asia when it happened, I saw it from a different lens.
Not a MSM puppet like most on here with their keyboard bravery.
Not a MSM puppet like most on here with their keyboard bravery.
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:05 pm to DabosDynasty
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205.3 million between 20-39. For comparison we have around 45.75 million in the same age range, most of which are unfit to serve. China doesn’t have the same problem.
At times I think people use the coming population decline in China to overcompensate. The only other country who could compete with these numbers at present is India. China is a ways ahead of India militarily as they continue to, as I believe you mentioned prior, build the most ships in the world while adding naval bases at a good clip.
Sure 50 years from now China May have a real problem with fighting aged males, they don’t today or immediate future. The numbers game is China’s for now and in our immediate future.
China no longer has the one child law. It bit them in the butt as they now have too many old people retiring and too few young ones in prime working age.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:06 pm to DabosDynasty
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most of which are unfit to serve. China doesn’t have the same problem.
China absolutely has the same problem you attribute to the US males.
How healthy do yall think the average Chinese citizen is?
What is shown to the world on TV is not the real China. Their people are impoverished and poorly nutritioned.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:11 pm to magildachunks
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How healthy do yall think the average Chinese citizen is?
What is shown to the world on TV is not the real China. Their people are impoverished and poorly nutritioned
And our nation is a giant jelly filled doughnut, overflowing with morbidly obese diabetic fat bodies. If half our country tried to run a half mile they'd drop dead of cardiac arrest.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:11 pm to OutsideObserver
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Interesting thread by ChrisO_wiki looking at cumlative sources pointing at worsening supply across the different fronts for Russia.
I would bet that if the supplies are that bad in Bakhumt Ukraine would be advancing in that area far more rapidly then they are. This leads me to believe that there are some isolated cases but it's not the standard across the front. I would be happy to be proved wrong though
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:13 pm to DabosDynasty
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Sure 50 years from now China May have a real problem with fighting aged males, they don’t today or immediate future. The numbers game is China’s for now and in our immediate future.
Again.
For those of you in the back.
Numbers don’t mean shite when you can’t feed them. The famine that would occur in China due to war with the west would make mao blush.
They.
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War.
Economy.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:15 pm to ClientNumber9
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And our nation is a giant jelly filled doughnut, overflowing with morbidly obese diabetic fat bodies. If half our country tried to run a half mile they'd drop dead of cardiac arrest.
Difference being we can support a full mobilization to war economy.
They cannot.
China is full stop at the mercy of international capitalism. They cannot exist without the massive influx of capitalist investment and the free flow of goods.
War with the west would be the end of the world for communist China.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:15 pm to beerJeep
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beerJeep
They won't understand
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:17 pm to LSU7096
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was living in the Central Asia when it happened, I saw it from a different lens.
Not a MSM puppet like most on here with their keyboard bravery.
sure sure. You were shown the local propaganda in central Asia and you know exactly what happened but no one else in the US doesPosted on 7/14/23 at 7:20 pm to StormyMcMan
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Russian President Vladimir Putin further indicated he intends to maintain the Wagner Group as a cohesive fighting force rather than breaking it up but seeks to separate Wagner Financier Yevgeny Prigozhin from Wagner leadership and forces.
Belarusian government and independent sources confirmed on July 14 that Wagner Group instructors previously deployed in Africa previously arrived at training grounds in Belarus.
Former 58th Combined Arms Army Commander Major General Ivan Popov’s dismissal continues to generate pronounced ire against the Russian military command and the Russian civilian leadership.
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations on at least three sectors of the frontline on July 14 and reportedly made gains in some areas.
Russian forces conducted another series of Shahed drone strikes across Ukraine on July 14.
Russian authorities detained former Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) officer Mikhail Polyakov, who reportedly is the administrator of several popular telegram channels covering internal Kremlin politics.
Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief General Valerii Zaluzhnyi acknowledged that Ukrainian forces are waging an interdiction campaign against Russian military targets in Russia.
Russian and Ukrainian forces continued limited ground attacks along the Svatove-Kreminna line.
Ukrainian forces continued ground attacks and reportedly advanced around Bakhmut.
Ukrainian and Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations along the western Donetsk-eastern Zaporizha Oblast border and reportedly made limited gains.
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in western Zaporizhia Oblast and reportedly advanced in this direction.
Russia continues efforts likely aimed at keeping high ranking officers in their positions without needing special exemptions to retirement age limits.
Russian occupation authorities continue efforts to consolidate administrative control of occupied territories by manipulating residence requirements and forcibly passportizing occupied populations.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:20 pm to StormyMcMan
Right. Its' like Bernie Sanders going to the Soviet Union and seeing how well everything worked, and then deciding that the US should be more like that.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:30 pm to GOP_Tiger
At the longest, a war with the Chinese is a two month affair; they have no naval power projection; parking two carrier groups in the Indian Ocean turns China back into the Qing Empire, technologically.
The idea that they have 1.46B people is laughable as well-- the Chinese government itself admitted overcounting by 100M several months ago, all in the under 40 category; realistically, if this is what the government is admitting to, the real number is probably higher.
The idea that they have 1.46B people is laughable as well-- the Chinese government itself admitted overcounting by 100M several months ago, all in the under 40 category; realistically, if this is what the government is admitting to, the real number is probably higher.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:39 pm to BoardReader
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realistically, if this is what the government is admitting to, the real number is probably higher.
Many think it's as high as 400M
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:58 pm to beerJeep
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Numbers don’t mean shite when you can’t feed them. The famine that would occur in China due to war with the west would make mao blush.
Their hydrocarbon sources can be choked in minutes, with Japan closing shipping lanes from Russia and the US closing shipping lanes from the Indian Ocean. Their overwhelming coastal navy wouldn't do much.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:03 pm to CitizenK
I'm fairly ignorant on this particular subject, but I kinda have a hard time seeing Japan closing anything on China militarily.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:13 pm to ticklechain
Look at a map, easy as pie. All shipping from the Russian Pacific has to pass by Japan. China cannot project power past Japan.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:27 pm to GOP_Tiger
This seems like an odd post for you.
Do you really think Bernie admires Russia?
Do you really think Bernie admires Russia?
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:31 pm to nitwit
Where did he go on his honeymoon?
That old socialist/communist is nothing but a fraud. He sold out and became bought and paid for. Isn't capitalism great Bernie? Bernie is one of those socialists that doesn't practice what he preaches.
That old socialist/communist is nothing but a fraud. He sold out and became bought and paid for. Isn't capitalism great Bernie? Bernie is one of those socialists that doesn't practice what he preaches.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:53 pm to nitwit
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This seems like an odd post for you. Do you really think Bernie admires Russia?
I doubt he admires this current iteration, but he absolutely admired the Soviet Union. He took his honeymoon to the USSR and came back and gave a press conferences describing their palaces of culture for youth and magnificent public transportation. He was the definition of a useful idiot.
I’m not sure what Bernie is now. Maybe a little more shrewd. Or maybe we are just all much dumber.
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