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Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:19 pm to tigeraddict
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I believe this is where the HQis located for the Russian MoD’s war in Ukraine
Yes, that's a better way to put it. Wagner can't get to Moscow without ammo, logistics, etc. It always depended on the MoD for a lot of that stuff. But taking Rostov would give it the tools it needs.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:22 pm to GOP_Tiger
I keep envisioning Napoleon's march after reaching France from Elba and troops sent to stop him, joining and swelling his army
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:23 pm to GOP_Tiger
What are the rough numbers Wagner is operating with? Any way to know really?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:24 pm to Jim Rockford
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Kamil Galeev says this will fail but it will further destabilize Putin and set the stage for a more serious coup attempt in a few months.
Yeah, everyone knows that Putin isn't OK, somehow. Just a week ago, he met with a bunch of milbloggers, and we found out afterwards that they all had to be in quarantine for a week before the meeting. That's just not normal, and it reinforces the narratives that Putin has cancer or something serious.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:26 pm to Ross
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I’m not sure how people who consider themselves conservative can go full blown tankie with this conflict.
How silly. This thread is filled with intelligent people - many who pat themselves on the back for being among the intelligencia - just taking these cartoonish fan sports positions.
First, it's a pejorative not even relevant to the conflict. Next, it relies on some bizarre idea that conservatives are required to be sworn enemies of modern Russia (without any real ideological basis for that). Lastly, it seeks to label those urging caution based on America's long history of meddling policy blunders and unintended consequences as somehow supporting Russia.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:26 pm to CitizenK
Priggy should have timed this for June 22. Would have been historic.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:27 pm to Pettifogger
Boy that was a lot of words to say “I’m in this picture and I don’t like it”
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:28 pm to Jim Rockford
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Kamil Galeev says this will fail but it will further destabilize Putin and set the stage for a more serious coup attempt in a few months.
Here's his tweet:
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It is also likely to fail. Not because there is few of them, but rather because they are far away
Russia is a hypercentralised country. Control over Moscow is the only thing that matters. And it is unlikely these fellows will be able to reach it, let alone occupy it
Girkin reminded us that, after the Russian Volunteer Corps incursion into Belgorod Oblast, Prigozhin volunteered his troops to go there and help protect the region, but it ended up being the Kadryovites instead.
If Wagner were in Belgorod instead of near Rostov, they would be much closer to Moscow.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:29 pm to Hateradedrink
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Boy that was a lot of words to say “I’m in this picture and I don’t like it”
Yes, very distressed about swimming upstream against the lockstep groupthink in this thread
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:31 pm to Pettifogger
Whole lot of 'copium being huffed by the pro-Putin crowd in here tonight.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:32 pm to Pettifogger
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required to be sworn enemies of modern Russia (without any real ideological basis for that).
frick communist. frick the land of communism.
Forever and always. Death to communist.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:32 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Whole lot of 'copium being huffed by the pro-Putin crowd in here tonight.
Do you seriously believe this?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:33 pm to ticklechain
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For some reason my bullshite meter is pegged out. All the videos I've are suspect at best. Guess we'll have to wait and see
I agree that the news is sketchy right now. But there is something going on that is unique. We will likely have more stable assessments tomorrow.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:33 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
This shite has everybody's Jimmy's rustled. Thread hasn't moved this fast in a long time
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:33 pm to Pettifogger
“I’m not a tankie bro but hold on let me defend Putin supporters rq”
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:34 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Not saying you're one of them but it's certainly true for most of the Putin Bros ITT today.
Do you seriously believe this?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:34 pm to Hateradedrink
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“I’m not a tankie bro but hold on let me defend Putin supporters rq”
Surely you can post an example of this
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:36 pm to Pettifogger
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The Governor of the #Lipetsk region Igor Artamonov urged residents to stop traveling to the south:
"Following the meeting of the operational headquarters, a decision was made to strengthen security measures in the region. Particular attention will be paid to critical infrastructure facilities. In addition, residents of the region are now advised to stop traveling to the south, in particular, to the Voronezh region. Friends, recent events have excited us all. But I ask everyone to remain calm and trust information only from official sources."
LINK
Also looks like the Sun is coming up over there. Expect more videos to be coming out
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:37 pm to Pettifogger
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some bizarre idea that conservatives are required to be sworn enemies of modern Russia (without any real ideological basis for that).
Nah, conservatism has always meant supporting freedom and opposing murderous, genocidal dictators who try to conquer other nations.
The fact that you are ignorant of that fact doesn't change it.
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