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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:25 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:25 pm to
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Why do you say that? Does he have the map reading skills of a female driver or something like that?


Early on in this war he came in here swearing up and down the Ukrainian Eastern Front was collapsing then said that ISW maps had to zoom out to show the front. However, the map that was "zoomed out" was actually zoomed in and had just been shifted.
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

This board actually believes Russia is on the brink of a massive civil war. Gotta hand it to them, they eat up the propaganda at every turn.



Russian generals are literally getting on social media and telling their troops to obey their superiors.

quote:

The real news is the failed counteroffensive.



1. The AFU forces have advanced.

2.It's been 2 weeks. That is not enough time to have failed or succeeded.

Claiming the AFU counter-offensive has failed at this point is like saying a home baseball team has lost the game when they are leading 1-0 in the top of the 2nd inning.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17348 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:27 pm to
NYTimes

Russia-Ukraine War

Russian Generals Accuse Mercenary Leader of Trying to Mount a Coup

Russia sent armored vehicles into the streets of Moscow and a city near Ukraine. Russia’s main security agency urged Wagner mercenaries to detain their leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, after he accused Russian forces of attacking them.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13094 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:27 pm to
His job seems to be to change the subject.
Understandable under the circumstances…
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Does anyone know how many American citizens are left in Moscow?


I know one of my friends BIL lives in Russia and decided to stay when the US was telling everyone to get out

But at least the entire embassy staff are still there for sure
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Prigozhin's audio message at 01:22 BST:

"The Head of General Staff is not calming down: a mistake of any African dictator is to deal air strikes at civilian areas. Right now in the air are two planes numbered 523 and 546 that are trying now to deal these strikes.

Remember, lads. The motherland will not forgive you for strikes at your own territory. You should have the courage to strike the enemy territory when our infantry is moving.

Thus, these speculations saying that we are interfering with someone fighting on the front are speculations. We do not interfere with anyone. We interfere with criminals savings their asses, who destroyed around 100k Russian soldiers. Gerasimov and Shoygu."

LINK
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

His job seems to be to change the subject.


He does realize that Russia is not paying its own troops, doesn't he? Even if Wagner fails to overthrow the Russian government he will not get paid for his posts or his time.
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Why do you say that? Does he have the map reading skills of a female driver or something like that?


Early on in this war he came in here swearing up and down the Ukrainian Eastern Front was collapsing then said that ISW maps had to zoom out to show the front. However, the map that was "zoomed out" was actually zoomed in and had just been shifted.


Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:36 pm to
Street Webcams in Rostov are inop

LINK
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87529 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

Stidham8


Wait until Putin faces a serious threat to his authority (Poli melts) and the terrifying risk of a destabilized, scared Russia that the hubris bros cheered on without reservation becomes apparent (OT melts)

Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38393 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Wait until Putin faces a serious threat to his authority
Might not have to wait long.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:42 pm to
From Russians with Attitude

quote:

There's zero proof or footage so far of anything actually happening tonight, except missiles landing in Ukraine.

LINK
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:42 pm to
I’m not sure how people who consider themselves conservative can go full blown tankie with this conflict.
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:49 pm to
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Street Webcams in Rostov are inop


I lived in Moscow for a few years in the late 2000s and early 2010s. I emailed my friends from Moscow and I was not expecting a reply this soon but one did reply. He and his family are on a train from Moscow to Sochi going on vacation and he said they have been stuck on a side track north of Rostov for hours because the rail line has been closed by the government.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22596 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

Russians with Attitude


The cope from these dudes is something.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5724 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:52 pm to
Volodymyr Tretyak ????
@VolodyaTretyak

#Prigozhin right now:
We are entering Rostov, MOD units are letting us in.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21024 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

I’m not sure how people who consider themselves conservative can go full blown tankie with this conflict.



It's because they were never really conservative. Publicly espousing conspiracy-based, right-wing authoritarianism wasn't really much of an option until recently. So, they supported the Tea Party and opposed Big Government when Obama was President, but now they support Putin as the world's only chance to defeat the globalists and the international Jews running the world.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

This board actually believes Russia is on the brink of a massive civil war.

And you believe that Russia is actually winning.

quote:

they eat up the propaganda at every turn.

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

Head of the Wagner group Prigozhin claims that they have shot down a Russian helicopter that "opened fire on a civilian convoy"

No evidence provided.

LINK

quote:

Governor of the Rostov region says that "the current situation requires the maximum concentration of all forces to maintain order, adding that residents should not leave home unnecessarily - Mash

LINK

quote:

A Russian milblogger posted a video reportedly showing a clash between Wagner and Russian forces near Rostov.

LINK
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21024 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 8:00 pm to
Girkin prophesies doom:

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