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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:19 pm to
The Ukrainian "Bakhmut Demon" Telegram channel says that some regular Russian troops are indeed fighting for Prigozhin:

quote:

"The leftovers of Wagners on the outskirts of Bakhmut opened fire on the regular roads of the Russian Federation.

Our assault brigades see everything, systematic strikes are now being carried out on the positions of the Russians.

You would hear the radio broadcast of these *** now.

The impression is that part of the Russian regular troops are killing their own, and it seems that part of the military is supporting Prigozhin. While it is not clear what is finally happening, it is a bloodbath"


It's really the only way that anything makes sense. Prigozhin must believe that significant chunks of the Russian military will rally to his side. And maybe they will.

What I don't understand is why Putin isn't already on TV. At this point, all the theories about Putin playing 4-D chess and pitting rivals against each other? That needs to go out the window, because this is shaping up to be a disaster for Russia.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Prigozhin: “All patriots of Russia, true patriots of the country who know history, and not fans of a weak government that betrayed the interests of the state




Q was talking about Russia this whole time
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

“Defense Minister of the Russian Federation Shoigu will be hanged on Red Square and will lie in the mausoleum with Lenin” -Prigozhin




So they'll hang him for being a traitor but give him a state funeral and bury him next to a national hero? WTF?
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:28 pm to
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1672312702775992339
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At this point, I have doubts. Prigos statements should not be trusted. This could just as well be completely staged by him. There is no evidence of casualties at this point.


https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672336823568277505
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A lot of things are being thrown around here and there about things happening in Russia but I have so far not seen a single photo or video evidence of anything, only text and audio messages.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:30 pm to
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94LSU


Hope you’re doing well this fine evening, komrade.

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:31 pm to
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1672321017652604928
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Hard to believe the Russian MoD would decide to strike Wagner while its hands are tied with the Ukrainian offensive. Maybe Prigozhin realized that Putin had sided with the MoD. Starting this while Russian military units are under heavy fire likely will cost Prigozhin support.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:34 pm to
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672340277586022404
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Russian propagandists start doubting Prigozhin's statements and say they are fake.

Were they told to do so?

"Already from two independent sources I was informed that Wagner PMC soldiers are asking me to convey that what is happening is a stuffing. Prigozhin's accounts have been hacked, and his voice has been replaced with a neural network. I sent a question to representatives of PMC Wagner Center, I'm waiting for an answer”
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:35 pm to
god bless, finally this war has turned into a meme after a year and a half
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105472 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:36 pm to
Ukrainian AI psychological warfare op?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:37 pm to
Open your eyes. This is an elaborate CIA plot to distract from the hunter Biden sentencing.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Ukrainian AI psychological warfare op?


Who the frick knows at this point.

If it is a psyop...gotta give Ukraine some props for this one.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:40 pm to
Rostov right now, a military vehicle photographed



https://twitter.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/1672343257294970880?s=46
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 3:52 pm
Posted by XenScott
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Member since Oct 2016
4167 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:42 pm to
Putin Footage

Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:43 pm to
From Girkin's telegram channel
https://t.me/strelkovii/5630
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On reflection, I completely reject and consider Prigozhin's statement that the Russian Armed Forces launched a missile attack on the Wagner location this afternoon, and consider it a complete lie. If there was a blow, then only Wagner himself could deliver it (logically) (or rather, a staging). Reason: to eliminate the "Wagner" it is absolutely not necessary to inflict any blows on some camps. Enough to "bang" Prigogine himself. Well, maybe someone else from his inner circle along with him. And that's it. And hitting ordinary soldiers and commanders is utter stupidity - even Shoigu and Gerasimov have enough brains to understand this. Now, if Prigozhin himself with his "council of commanders" were covered with a rocket, I would still believe it. And so it's a lie. Dot.
Posted by Hateradedrink
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:45 pm to


Oryx’s twitter
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:55 pm to
So much conflicting info out there

This is from the AP Wagner Telegram Channel, one of it's offical channels.

If this is a psyop, its an elaborate one.

https://t.me/apwagner/9111
quote:

Further information on the liberation campaign from the Tuvan degenerate will continue to appear on this channel, as well as Unloading and Prigozhin's Cap and on a number of other friendly channels. I recommend subscribing so you don't miss anything. It will be interesting.


quote:

All military personnel of the RF Armed Forces who do not want to join the cleansing campaign will be considered collaborators who have gone over to the crests and will deal with them accordingly.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:02 pm to
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1672345875547389957
quote:

BREAKING: FSB put on alert in Moscow. Roadblocks set up on the Moscow-Voronezh-Rostov road. Those who are on duty are ordered to "open fire in case of a threat", sources tell BBC Russia

Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22596 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:03 pm to
No body fricking announces a coup before it happens. This whole thing is weird.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

No body fricking announces a coup before it happens. This whole thing is weird.



Agreed...time will tell whats true and what isn't.

One thing is for sure, the entire Russian social media universe is on fire right now.

Here is a post saying the Russians have surrounded the Wagner HQ.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1672338025731469312
quote:

??OMON Riot police have surrounded Wagner PMC headquarters in Molkino. Wagner troops have taken defensive positions. Helicopter armed with gatling guns dispatched to the area. This base is shared with GRU 10th Separate Special Purpose Brigade. Guess which side they're on.



Here is where that is located
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Base+de+Molkino/@45.4017389,38.4367937,838014m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x40f1028152df7b03:0xb392be6c997d9e0e!8m2!3d44.7802484!4d39.2076182!16s%2Fg%2F11c1tz68r_?entry=ttu
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 4:09 pm
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