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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:14 pm to
Two credible Russian telegram channels report that the the "Citadel Protocol" has been implemented in Moscow and in Rostov tonight. The Citadel protocol entails full mobilization of the police and taking charge/guarding of the key communication and silovik/law enforcement centers

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1672342898640142342
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26833 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Ukrainians are joking that all the stores in Kyiv are already out of popcorn.


Lol. Someone still has a sense of humor.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:17 pm to
Here is a link to Prigozhin's telegram channel for those interested.
https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3797
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16099 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:18 pm to
We stocked up on popcorn recently. That's a good thing
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3589 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Agreed...time will tell whats true and what isn't.


Speculation...

False flag op to incite a higher level/degree of nationalism among the populace??

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21022 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

False flag op to incite a higher level/degree of nationalism among the populace??


No, I don't think that makes any sense. I think that now, the best case for Russia out of all of this is still a disaster.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:28 pm to
If this is all true, wow.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672353798231080961
quote:

Russian channel DONTSTOPWAR reports that a 50km long Wagner-column has crossed the Novoshakhtinskaya border checkpoint into Russia reportedly heading for Novocherkassk (towards Rostov-on-Don).

The column itself has not yet been visually confirmed.


Telegram channel for this one: https://t.me/dontstopwar/9856
quote:

The column of musicians goes through the checkpoint Novoshakhtinsk, the length of the column is about 50 km.
At the Voloshino checkpoint, the situation is the same, only the convoy 80 km and continue to go.
VP and border guards do not interfere.
At first, 2 tanks drove up to Novoshakhtinsk, the musicians came out, talked to the border guards, said not to interfere, sat down and drove off.



https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672353648070803458
quote:

Wagner PMC Telegram channel:

"We're starting."


Link to this telegram account https://t.me/apwagner/9112
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Russian channel DONTSTOPWAR reports that a 50km long Wagner-column has crossed the Novoshakhtinskaya border checkpoint into Russia reportedly heading for Novocherkassk (towards Rostov-on-Don).





Putin needs to negotiate...
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14894 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:37 pm to
If this is true does Russia MoD have any forces outside of Ukraine to stop it other then aviation or regional border guards/paramilitary/police?
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3589 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

No, I don't think that makes any sense.


Yeah... I really wasn't buying it either... just a thought...


Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
8182 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:42 pm to
The AP Wagner Telegram channel is posting a lot, in the last 20 minutes:

https://t.me/apwagner/9114

quote:

The commanders of PMC "Wagner" remain loyal to the most promising politician and will carry out any of his orders. Neither the FSB nor Surovikin will be able to stop what has begun.


quote:

March of justice PMC "Wagner" is a karmic punishment of Gerasimov and Shoigu.

If you have been ruining the army for years, trying for years to destroy the most combat-ready unit (“they are not there” during Khsham, shell shortage during the Bakhmut meat grinder and today’s strike on the rear camps), if you rewarded muradovs and expelled really honest generals, if you abandoned ordinary soldiers in stupid meat assaults, then one must be prepared for the fact that justice can prevail.

Are Shoigu and Gerasimov ready?


quote:

All the generals who, with trembling hands, appeal to the musicians to stop, have actually signed their own sentence. There will be a tribunal. Surovikin will still answer for the surrender of Kherson.


If this is a Ukrainian Psyop, it's a masterpiece. Budanov taking revenge for his "death"
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 4:44 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5723 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:47 pm to
Dmitri
@wartranslated
General "Armageddon" Surovikin published a video calling Wagner to "obey the Supreme Commander".

Twitter
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5723 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:52 pm to
#Breaking Russian state-controlled propaganda media have ALL their main news EXCLUSIVELY about "Prigozhin's mutiny". General Surovikin addresses the Wagnerites, holding weapons in his arms, and urges them not to participate in the mutiny. Wow.

Twitter
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105472 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

If this is true does Russia MoD have any forces outside of Ukraine to stop it other then aviation or regional border guards/paramilitary/police?




The Rosvgardia is for exactly this purpose. They're more lightly armed than the regular army, but Wagner doesn't have much in the way of heavy weapons, either. Of course there's no gaurantee of where the Rosvgardia's loyalties lie in this scenario, either.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8182 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:54 pm to
This was in one of the responses
quote:

When your top general (here: Surovikin, a killer of Syria, a former Russian commander in Ukraine) needs to address his own soldiers asking them not to participate in mutiny, while holding an assault rifle, something went wrong in your 3-days-colonial war.


Translation from the video by @wartranslated
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672357331663765504
quote:

"I have just returned by the order of the Ministry of Defence from the zero line, where our forces, our commanders, our soldiers, volunteers carry out the objective, fighting the superior enemy forces to death, take casualties, but stand on their positions.

I appeal to the leadership, commanders and fighters of PMC Wagner: Together with you, we walked a difficult path. Together with you, we fought, we took risks, we took losses, but overcome together. We are of the same blood. We are warriors.

I call on you to stop. The enemy is waiting for our internal political situation to aggravate. We shouldn’t play into the enemy’s hand in this difficult time for the country."

It needs to be done before it’s too late: to obey the will and order of the people-elected President of the Russian Federation. Stop the columns, and return them to their permanent positions and places of concentration.

To solve all problems with civil means only under the leadership of the Supreme Commander of the Russian Armed Forces.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 5:00 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11914 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:56 pm to
Washington Post reporting that the FSB has charged Prighozin with "incitement to armed rebellion".
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:57 pm to
This is honestly better than if Ukraine routed Russia in the first week of the counter offensive.

This is like the line backer coach going up and kicking the defensive coordinator in the nuts after the opposing team ran up the middle for 3 yards
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8182 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:58 pm to
This is likely to cause heads to explode on the PT board.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61743 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 5:06 pm to
Yeah I’ve anxiously been waiting for their responses. LOL
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105472 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

Your Gorilla Friend
@SecretNofun
Honestly, pretty excited to see the Shoigu-Prigozhin undercard at the Elon-Zuckerburg cage fight.
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