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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/12/23 at 12:23 pm to LSU2NO
Posted on 6/12/23 at 12:23 pm to LSU2NO
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I cannot agree on this point
I have so much to say! Meiji Restoration! Russo Japanese war! But don’t want to sidebar the thread . . . .
And empire is a bit shoe horned onto Germany to be sure. So more appropriately I just mean three super powers that accepted the sovereignty of their neighborhood and engaged with the world going forward strictly in the economic and trade arena.
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:00 pm to ned nederlander
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I cannot agree on this point
I have so much to say! Meiji Restoration! Russo Japanese war! But don’t want to sidebar the thread . . . .
And empire is a bit shoe horned onto Germany to be sure. So more appropriately I just mean three super powers that accepted the sovereignty of their neighborhood and engaged with the world going forward strictly in the economic and trade arena.
OK. Meiji, is the consolidation of modern Japan, but yeah, I agree with your points.
Good observation.
I also am appreciative of the education you gave me with the Meiji. I knew of it in general, but not by name. Thank you.
Back to the thread...
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:19 pm to LSU2NO
LINK
A Reuters article that doesn’t have any new information for this board but just summarizes the gain. Posting just because it provides this perspective on the advancement toward Makarivka:
Five KM across a 20 km wide space is nothing to sneeze at, but everything is still very much in its infancy of this operation and it’s goals.
A Reuters article that doesn’t have any new information for this board but just summarizes the gain. Posting just because it provides this perspective on the advancement toward Makarivka:
quote:
The push is already Ukraine's most rapid advance for seven months, though still short of a major breakthrough, with Russia believed to have a strong line of fortifications further south. At the furthest claimed by Kyiv, it adds up to five km (three miles) in total, still some 90 km (55 miles) from the Azov Sea coast and the prize of cutting Russia's "land bridge" to Crimea, the peninsula Moscow seized from Ukraine in 2014.
Five KM across a 20 km wide space is nothing to sneeze at, but everything is still very much in its infancy of this operation and it’s goals.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:24 pm to notiger1997
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What is the reason for not going all in and including this equipment with the initial offensive?
Tactical patience.
You set the conditions for success but you need to allow the battlefield to develop before committing to plan A, B, etc. Think of a great running back like Barry Sanders, the play may call for him to run the B gap but that extra tiny pause he takes to survey the field may let him realize the A gap or breaking wide is a better option.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:25 pm to notiger1997
Even the best boxers use feints.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:26 pm to Obtuse1
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Kadyrov's troops were sent to fight in Belgorod
The Akhmat detachments of Ramzan Kadyrov were sent to the Belgorod region, Z-media reports. "It is reported that Akhmat special forces units have arrived in Shebekino. Apparently, epic battles of the Russian Volunteer Corps against Akhmat are waiting for us soon," writes the AP Wagner channel.
"Chechnya may send thousands of Rosgvardia, Defense Ministry and police fighters to the Belgorod region to fight saboteurs," said Kadyrov.
LINK
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:28 pm to Lakeboy7
I have no issues with anyone participating in this thread as long as they aren't a drive-by troll. No one should be shouting down the legitimate posters.
It's ok to have differing opinions, it's even ok if someone thinks Russia's in the right on this. I may not agree with you, but I respect your opinion as long as you take the effort to explain your position. And that's really what it boils down to, being willing to discuss and disagree in a respectful manner, you do that and you should be welcomed in this thread.
ETA: GT might be a contrarian, but thats ok. It drives conversation. Moment and I may not agree on some things, but so what, his opinion is just as valid as mine even if it's wrong :D (that was a joke)
ETA2: Its posters like STD, Stiham8, etc...who come in, make wild statements then don't hang around to discuss or defend them, that I consider trolls.
It's ok to have differing opinions, it's even ok if someone thinks Russia's in the right on this. I may not agree with you, but I respect your opinion as long as you take the effort to explain your position. And that's really what it boils down to, being willing to discuss and disagree in a respectful manner, you do that and you should be welcomed in this thread.
ETA: GT might be a contrarian, but thats ok. It drives conversation. Moment and I may not agree on some things, but so what, his opinion is just as valid as mine even if it's wrong :D (that was a joke)
ETA2: Its posters like STD, Stiham8, etc...who come in, make wild statements then don't hang around to discuss or defend them, that I consider trolls.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:31 pm to Obtuse1
quote:I love the example and I am damn glad Les Miles isn't in charge of the counter offensive.
Tactical patience.
You set the conditions for success but you need to allow the battlefield to develop before committing to plan A, B, etc. Think of a great running back like Barry Sanders, the play may call for him to run the B gap but that extra tiny pause he takes to survey the field may let him realize the A gap or breaking wide is a better option.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:40 pm to mmcgrath
HB dive x4
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:42 pm to GOP_Tiger
Text message from a friend, former USMC officer in Beirut then NSA still under Reagan. Now a Poli Sci prof in Poland and consultant to Polish Military.
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But it appears that the Ukraninans had a much larger reserve than anyone knew and the push for more and more armour and afvs was designed to mislead thinking they did not have enough but what the Ukrainians were trying to do is get up to 40 new mesh brigades not the 26 that everyone was talking about. Here Prgosizn was actually correct on the size of the reserve force the Ukrainians had...
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But what was interesting was that yes those frontal units ran into trouble but they got out and recovered both leopards and all but 2 of the bradleys
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:44 pm to CitizenK
And yes he was wounded with head shrapnel, one of the reasons for the delay in the offensive.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:54 pm to CitizenK
The Russian General Staff is having to send Russian troops to Belgorod area to calm the fears of locals after Chechens were sent to repel the Free Russian forces. The Chechens being notorious for looting raping and general mayhem
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:57 pm to mmcgrath
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I love the example and I am damn glad Les Miles isn't in charge of the counter offensive.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:05 pm to crazy4lsu
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I actually think that in the context of Western-Chinese relations, the Russo-Ukrainian War is a great showcase of what might occur to the Chinese if they act on their territorial ambitions.
Maybe, depends on Japanese and SK cooperation plus Australia more so than Europe imo. Japan has been making some moves to suggest they’ll contribute to the best of their abilities, but they have a low base to start from comparatively and don’t have the physical presence to back it up, even regionally.
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The way Russia handled the West is also illustrative of exactly what not to do in international relations.
This I think is correct. China has learned what not to do, either deterring their own ambitions or helping them adjust their plan.
China also has more people and money to throw at any problem than does Russia. Hypothically, securing and controlling Taiwanese trade goods, ie semiconductors, is of more global value than Russia/Ukraine. I don’t think sanctions can attempt address the semiconductor problem. Russia has found ways to evade oil sanctions to some degree and that’s something that could be replaced to market if the Saudis chose to. Same can’t be said for semiconductors.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:23 pm to CitizenK
Are you saying that they have 40 operational regiments with armor? Holy shite they could invade and conquer Russia
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:38 pm to TutHillTiger
There have been some unsubstantiated rumors around this, but nothing that I ever felt was solid enough to share. Still doesn't mean its true, but it could be.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:42 pm to DabosDynasty
Speaking of Japan in this context:
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:45 pm to DabosDynasty
I could be wrong but I don’t see a war with China on the immediate horizon. No massive trading partners have ever gone to war in the history of the world. And they are one of our largest trade partners. China is too smart for that, they don’t want a war they want to expand their sphere of influence, that’s the one true thing they have ever said. In war everyone loses, they would lose their entire trade with the west and thus their economy would be destroyed, Xi or whatever his name is would be replaced etc. they are very patient people they will wait 1000 years to get what they want, they aren’t going to make stupid rash decisions like Putin did. It’s not their way
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:49 pm to TutHillTiger
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No massive trading partners have ever gone to war in the history of the world
On the eve of WWI, there were many “experts” claiming there was no way for a large scale war in Europe was possible because Britain, France, Germany, and even Austria-Hungary and Russia were all massive trading partners with one another.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:52 pm to TutHillTiger
Not enough equipment but manpower is there
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