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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:11 am to sqerty
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:11 am to sqerty
If Lukashenko is being taken out, expect Russia to swoop in and assert control quickly.
Is there any chance of an uprising? The people, the citizens of Belarus, like those of Ukraine, absolutely hate Putin. They hate the idea of being a Russian puppet. The problem is that the Luka controls the military, and Luka is inexorably bound to the Kremlin.
I’d like to see Russia ultimately drawn into a two front war, but this is perhaps wishful thinking. Certainly a protracted civil war is possible, but only if the generals resist Russia.
Is there any chance of an uprising? The people, the citizens of Belarus, like those of Ukraine, absolutely hate Putin. They hate the idea of being a Russian puppet. The problem is that the Luka controls the military, and Luka is inexorably bound to the Kremlin.
I’d like to see Russia ultimately drawn into a two front war, but this is perhaps wishful thinking. Certainly a protracted civil war is possible, but only if the generals resist Russia.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 8:17 am
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:22 am to Slippy
If Luka dies, I expect armed conflict in Belarus. I don't know to what extent or who would win (though I would bet on Putin).
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:58 am to GOP_Tiger
Ukraine’s Counteroffensive, Units to Watch #2 – 28th Mechanized Brigade
The second of a nine-part series, in which Kyiv Post highlights some of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) units that will likely play an integral part in the long-awaited counteroffensive.
by Stefan Korshak | May 13, 2023, 12:33 pm
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The second of a nine-part series, in which Kyiv Post highlights some of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) units that will likely play an integral part in the long-awaited counteroffensive.
by Stefan Korshak | May 13, 2023, 12:33 pm
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:20 am to GOP_Tiger
Honestly Luka dying could work in the favor of Ukraine but only if their people resist in large numbers. Putin would just try to annex Belarus back into Russia just like he’s trying to take over Ukraine to make it part of the old Soviet borders. I suspect the Belarusian military would either lay down their weapons in the face of a Russian attack or just willingly join them so it’s a small chance that would help Ukraine. If the military would not go with Putin thought that would be one more problem and area where Putin would have to distribute his forces which would thin out the forces in Ukraine. This is all for nothing though, I expect Luka gets better soon. Putin would never intentionally try to take him out when he would get down and kiss his feet on command.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 10:06 am
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:34 am to LSUPilot07
Wasn’t Belarus also part of the Budapest agreement?
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:38 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:Yes, if there is regime change in Belarus soon there will certainly be a violent struggle for power, but I would think this would be limited to the political factions in Minsk and be over quickly. It may have started already.
If Luka dies, I expect armed conflict in Belarus.
I would not bet on their military joining Putin. They didn’t do that when it actually looked attractive at the beginning of the war and that isn’t going to change. There is a lot more support for Ukraine in Belarus than we realize.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:47 am to Obtuse1
Kenner is 1 square mile smaller in geographical size. 
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:49 am to TutHillTiger
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Oil prices will soar of course but otherwise a desirable outcome
Oil prices haven't soared since the panic from a year ago quieted down.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:02 am to Obtuse1
Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:17 am to Coeur du Tigre
Does Russia have the combat power available to send into Belarus ?
Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:32 am to Chromdome35
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Does Russia have the combat power available to send into Belarus ?
They have the men. Whether they have much more than APCs and cannon fodder troops is questionable. My guess is they won’t take anyone worth a shite from Ukraine.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:39 am to Chromdome35
Didn’t Belarus “give” Russia a large allotment of tanks and APC late last year as well as munitions? Not sure they much of an army other then on paper. Tanking out Luka can be used as a Russian false flag. Blame on Ukraine/NATO then quickly move troops in to secure “peace”. New puppet in his place/Russia governor appointed.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:02 am to tigeraddict
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Didn’t Belarus “give” Russia a large allotment of tanks and APC late last year as well as munitions? Not sure they much of an army other then on paper. Tanking out Luka can be used as a Russian false flag. Blame on Ukraine/NATO then quickly move troops in to secure “peace”. New puppet in his place/Russia governor appointed.
Luka IS Russia's puppet. The Belarus military is all about keeping the public in line. The majority (instead of plurality) loathe Luka
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:22 am to CitizenK
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Luka IS Russia's puppet. The Belarus military is all about keeping the public in line. The majority (instead of plurality) loathe Luka
But him passing away and Russia blaming him can give cover for Russian tanks to roll into Minsk. Just finished watching the 4 part series on tank on Netflix. Rolling I. The tanks is right up ussr/Russian wheelhouse
Luka can’t “invite” Russian troops in. But under cover of assassination, Russia can move in “peace keeping” forces and still appoint another puppet.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:34 am to tigeraddict
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Rolling I. The tanks is right up ussr/Russian wheelhouse
I do understand your general point, just curious what tanks exactly they will have to roll in. If they’re pulling out of mothballs to send to front, whats left to roll into Belarus?
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 11:35 am
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:37 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:When they offer you some tea, say "No thank you!"
He got sick in Moscow on May 9th and left the Victory Day festivities early to fly back to Minsk.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 12:22 pm to mmcgrath
And right on queue...
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and the head of the United Transition Office of Belarus Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya met at the Charlemagne Prize ceremony in Germany.
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Following disputed 2020 Belarusian presidential election, opposition forces, led by presidential candidate Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya formed a Coordination Council to facilitate a transition to democracy in the country. Tsikhanouskaya and several other members of the council were forced to leave Belarus or were placed under arrest during protests that broke out following the election.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 12:37 pm to tigeraddict
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Didn’t Belarus “give” Russia a large allotment of tanks and APC late last year as well as munitions? Not sure they much of an army other then on paper.
Belarus was cleaned out months ago. If there is one live round in Belarus it was an oversight.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 1:42 pm to Lakeboy7
Rybar reports that Ukraine has captured Kuzemivka, a town northwest of Svatove. There hasn't been much movement on this section of the front for a long while.
So far, I haven't read any reports of Leopards or Bradleys there, but maybe we'll see those soon. Or maybe this is just due to worn-out Russian forces and the Ukrainian troops there being given a little more ammo.
EDIT: Rybar has taken this map down and said that the information was false.
So far, I haven't read any reports of Leopards or Bradleys there, but maybe we'll see those soon. Or maybe this is just due to worn-out Russian forces and the Ukrainian troops there being given a little more ammo.
EDIT: Rybar has taken this map down and said that the information was false.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 5/14/23 at 1:53 pm to GOP_Tiger
Ukraine’s Counteroffensive, Units to Watch #3 – 82nd Air Assault Brigade
The third of a nine-part series, in which Kyiv Post highlights some of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) units that will play an integral part in the long-awaited counteroffensive.
by Stefan Korshak | May 14, 2023, 12:11 pm
The Ukrainian military has never acknowledged the existence of this unit, but leaked Pentagon documents identified it as the single most powerful formation likely to be involved in the offensive. The newspaper Forbes on May 3 described the unit as “ridiculously powerful”.
Kyiv Post
The third of a nine-part series, in which Kyiv Post highlights some of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) units that will play an integral part in the long-awaited counteroffensive.
by Stefan Korshak | May 14, 2023, 12:11 pm
The Ukrainian military has never acknowledged the existence of this unit, but leaked Pentagon documents identified it as the single most powerful formation likely to be involved in the offensive. The newspaper Forbes on May 3 described the unit as “ridiculously powerful”.
Kyiv Post
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