re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

the soviets paid the biggest price out of any combatant

doesnt change the fact that it was an allied victory in that the russians would not have delievered such a crushing blow had the US and brits not been actively invoved

the russians needed us to defeat nazi germany just as much as we needed them to bear the brunt

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the soviets paid the biggest price out of any combatant

doesnt change the fact that they jointly started the war working together with the Nazis in the invasion of Poland.

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FIFY

Russia, today, pretends that they were mere victims in WWII, invaded by Germany and valiantly resisting.

The truth is that the USSR was an evil aggressor in that war.

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The truth is that the USSR was an evil aggressor in that war.

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The Poles absolutely remember; hence their support of Ukraine. The Finns didn't forget the consequence of a Stalinist, expansionist Russian neighbor, either.

Does anyone know anything about the amount or disposition of Russian reserves ready to counter the offensive?

Without the U.S. supplying thousands and thousands of trucks the red army would have been in the 19th century using horses to pull their artillery, transport their wounded, ammunition, food and everything else. That’s not even taking into account the P-39 fighters, bullets, clothing and tons upon tons of food to support their army. I think it’s safe to say Russia wasn’t innocent in the war and would have lost millions more without our material support. If Hitler didn’t act like the idiot he was and attack the Soviets they would have been fighting WITH the nazis, not against. Patton was 100% correct in that we should have finished the job while we had the men and material there to do the job. There’s no telling how much better the world might have been with no Cold War.

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Or created a lot more.

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I’m sure likely both are correct, scope and complexity would be the difference. Sort of hard to reverse engineer history, but continuing on to defeat the Soviets wipes the board of the three most significant adversaries in one fell swoop: Germany, Japan, and Russia. Western Europe destroyed and exhausted from hosting a second World War.

Most likely no Cold War. Some percentage chance of Russia becoming some form of democracy. The flip side is who is NATO created to defend against? Potentially gives a lack of the cohesiveness and peace NATO has achieved in Europe. We potentially return to an isolationist stance, technically this in itself likely avoids some war and conflict.

Agree lots of unknown variables, but the ones we know are huge that may have been avoided.

I have heard very little and seen even less evidence of Russia having significant reserves stashed somewhere.

They have to have some somewhere, don't they?

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NAZI's should have gone to the Caspian Sea for the oil instead of going for Russian fields

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It would be a hell of trick getting to the Caspian Sea in 1940 without going through a few Russian fields.

The Molotov-von Ribbentrop Pact has entered the chat.

With Supplies from the USA and even Great Britain, otherwise Germany would have pushed Russia to the Caucasuses. Russians actually preferred the Shermans to T-34.

As a Russian refinery manager told me in 1992, "Thank you Mr. Roosevelt and the American People"