re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Russian firetruck on fire in Moscow.

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Despite the hatred y'all have for Russians, you should still be able to recognize the significance of this day for them.

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Not at all. I prefer to remember all of the history, not just those events that Russians and their supporters have conveniently forgotten. Here is a real parade, a parade of not remembered events -

It doesn’t remember signing the Nazi-Soviet Pact that started World War II.

It doesn’t remember its invasions and illegal annexations of sovereign European countries in agreement with the Nazis.

It doesn’t remember that the countries it invaded were neutral and had a right to exist in international law (and still do, by the way).

It doesn’t remember that Western democracies fought the Nazis from the start of the war - while Russia was in effective alliance with the Nazis.

It doesn’t remember its praise for the Nazis in the first two years of the war & how it aligned its propaganda to claim they had the same enemies.

It doesn’t remember its extensive mutual assistance with the Nazis in the first two years of the war.

In fact, it doesn’t remember literally any of the first two years of the war. (Check the dates on their commemorations today.)

It doesn’t remember the mass atrocities it committed against the people of occupied countries.

It doesn’t remember the many “Soviet” lives lost fighting the Nazis who were not Russian. It claims people from occupied countries and other republics as its own sacrifice.

It doesn’t remember lend-lease and other considerable allied contributions to support the Soviet Union when it was forced to switch sides to the allies.

It doesn’t remember that it continued its repressive occupations after the war here in the Baltics, as originally agreed with the Nazis.

It doesn’t remember the post-WW2 settlement that led to the development of international law, which crucially meant that borders should never again be changed by force.

It doesn’t remember the main lessons of WW2 that “never again” should we tolerate totalitarianism and aggression as a tool of statecraft.

These are all key details for anyone actually remembering WW2, which took place from 1939 to 1945.

Countries like ours consigned to aggression in the Nazi-Soviet Pact will never forget WW2 in its entirety and the lessons for the world today. Its why we detest Nazi and Soviet totalitarianism. It’s why we annulled the Nazi-Soviet Pact to restore our independence. It’s why we rebuilt free, open democracies where history can be freely discussed. It’s why we support international law, the rights of all nations to exist, and all people to have their freedoms. It’s why we support Ukraine.



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And the future holds a lot of not remembering too:

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"We are witnessing the formation of the post-Putin authority today. Prigozhin's interview is future-oriented. He understands that there is a political crisis brewing in Russia in the wake of a military defeat in whatever form. He will pick a side and have an important role in that crisis," Juškin said.

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... private military companies will also play an important role in the looming power struggle, pointing to former Deputy Defense Minister Mikhail Mizintsev who joined Wagner and other players.

"Medvedev's militant rhetoric suggests he will also pick a side, as will Dmitri Peskov who sent his son to fight with Prigozhin. Mizintsev simply became Prigozhin's deputy. And to that company we need to add various private military firms," Juškin suggested. [Finally] Masses of soldiers returning from the war will also be a crucial factor

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Juškin suggested that state officials and the business elite have already picked remote airports in Russia and are preparing to evacuate.

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"After the [Ukraine] loss, there will be a dictatorship in Russia – that of national patriots. And the first thing they'll do is settle the score with national traitors," he remarked.

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Despite the hatred y'all have for Russians, you should still be able to recognize the significance of this day for them.

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It was not an annual parade until Putin came along. The only nation it was an official holiday previously was Ukraine. Most people who know history know that many of the Russian casualties was marching troops through minefields as the Russian way to clear minefields.

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Or created a lot more.

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Killing communist is never a problem.

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the soviets paid the biggest price out of any combatant

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That would be the Poles

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That would be the Poles

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Which metric are you using? I think most people here are talking about military and civilian casualties. Of which the Soviet Union dwarfed pretty much everyone except for China.

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Cypher posted this information two pages back -

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The original is on Telegram. A link is embedded in this article.

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That would be the Poles

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No. It's the Soviets followed closely by the Chinese.

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Just dropping by to say frick Zelensky. His death will be a blessing.

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Care to explain why you feel this way?

1) Are you ethnic Russian?
2) You are upset that Trump got impeached because of his call with Zelensky?
3) Years ago you gave Zelensky a BJ and he ghosted you afterward?
4) You are being paid to troll
5) Other? Please explain

ETA: Forgot one 6: You hate Biden (understandable) and because his administration supports Ukraine, you support Russia.