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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/28/23 at 5:52 pm to bamadontcare
Posted on 2/28/23 at 5:52 pm to bamadontcare
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Nah. I’ll post wherever I want. Do you not find those headlines strange?
Me too, just another cuck for Russia's troll farms. The far left was pro Russia until it tried to take all of Ukraine. That is the simple and easy explanation. The nutter "right" fell in line but then kept up supporting Putin "is God King"
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 2/28/23 at 5:57 pm to LSU7096
Some like Germany, yes. Others pull more than their fair share as percent of GDP. NATO has a few major economies and a lot of tiny economies. Share of support is by percent of GDP.
Is it no surprise that Spain doesn't maintain its military equipment and might be on par with Russia's maintenance program?
Is it no surprise that Spain doesn't maintain its military equipment and might be on par with Russia's maintenance program?
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:00 pm to Lakeboy7
The House Armed Services Committee held hearings today. Its chairman, Mike Rogers (R), is a strong supporter of Ukraine.
LINK
From everything that I can see, despite a loud minority in the GOP calling for a halt to aid in Ukraine, most of the Republicans in Congress are either in favor of the aid we have provided, or they are critical that we haven't provided more.
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Ukrainian forces would need at least 18 months to learn how to fly and maintain F-16 fighter jets in combat, a senior Pentagon official told Congress on Tuesday as the Biden administration continued to fend off questions about why a frequent request from Kyiv and, increasingly, some American politicians remains unfulfilled.
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“I do think this conversation will continue,” Colin Kahl, the undersecretary of defense for policy, explained to members of the House Armed Services Committee. In a best-case scenario, he said, older F-16s could be transferred within about 18 months. To purchase and deliver new ones, he noted, could take up to six years, adding that U.S. Air Force personnel have assessed that for Ukraine to upgrade its fleet of fighter aircraft, it likely will need about 80 jets.
“It’s just hard for me to tell any member of Congress, of the American public, that the best use of that dollar spent right now is on F-16s,” Kahl said.
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“Since the beginning, the president has been overly worried, in my view, that giving Ukraine what it needs to win would be too escalatory,” the committee’s chairman, Rep. Mike D. Rogers (R-Ala.), said. “This hesitation has only prolonged the war and driven up the cost in terms of dollars and lives.”
Rep. Jared Golden (D-Maine) noted that a bipartisan group of lawmakers had called on the administration several times in the past year to provide long-range missiles in addition to F-16s. While Ukrainian officials may have more immediate priorities, like obtaining additional air defenses to protect people and civilian infrastructure from Russian missile and drone attacks, “certainly they would prefer to have their top five or top six or top ten needs or capabilities met,” Golden said.
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Tuesday’s hearings were remarkable for the broad sense of agreement among Republicans and Democrats who favor a stricter accounting of the vast amount of military hardware being sent into the war zone. Kahl, when asked about the possibility of U.S.-provided weapons falling into the wrong hands, said that the Pentagon had not seen “any evidence” of diversion.
The Defense Department inspector general, Robert Storch, characterized his team’s work as aggressive, ongoing and sprawling in scope. To date, he said, its findings were “limited,” though. Under questioning, Storch stopped short of saying that no weapons have gone missing in Ukraine, telling Rep. John Garamendi (D.-Calif.) that so far inspectors had turned up no major issues.
The hearing was convened two weeks after Rogers, the armed services committee chair, led a bipartisan congressional delegation to Poland and Romania meant to observe how the U.S. military delivers and tracks the weapons it provides to Ukraine. The lawmakers released a joint statement after their trip calling for greater transparency on the issue.
From everything that I can see, despite a loud minority in the GOP calling for a halt to aid in Ukraine, most of the Republicans in Congress are either in favor of the aid we have provided, or they are critical that we haven't provided more.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:01 pm to CitizenK
I lived with arrogant NATO leeches for 9 years while overseas. The majority don't like the USA but expect and demand our protection. Time for them to pay taxes as a protectorate of the USA!
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:06 pm to GOP_Tiger
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despite a loud minority in the GOP
Nutters gotta nut
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:08 pm to LSU7096
Take it to the political board. Wrong place.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:11 pm to LSU7096
Greece pulls way more than its fair share which is surprising to me. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and the UK pull at least their fair share.
NATO definitely benefits the USA a LOT. We haven't had to bail out Europe from warring nations in it for over 75 years. We definitely need Europe for trade. The USA has been dependent on trade with Europe since before 1776
NATO definitely benefits the USA a LOT. We haven't had to bail out Europe from warring nations in it for over 75 years. We definitely need Europe for trade. The USA has been dependent on trade with Europe since before 1776
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:23 pm to CitizenK
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NATO definitely benefits the USA a LOT. We haven't had to bail out Europe from warring nations in it for over 75 years.
We’re doing it right now.
quote:We need China for trade too. Maybe we should start sending them all our cool shite too.
We definitely need Europe for trade.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:24 pm to duggieblue
He looks like a giant malevolent rabbit.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:39 pm to Jim Rockford
Nailed it, that's great!
Someone needs to replace the carrot with an icon.
Someone needs to replace the carrot with an icon.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:41 pm to Jim Rockford
This satirical instagram account, which I think is run by former Navy SEAL and podcast host Andy Stumpf, has some thoughts RE: Seagal.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:55 pm to Jim Rockford
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Rheinmetall CEO Papperger stated that its Skyranger and Skynex AA Systems are in Ukraine (in german podcast)
These are the prototypes for two different possible successor systems to the Gepard system, which has been hugely important in protecting Ukrainian cities from the Iranian Shahed drones.
There is certainly no better way to test prototypes than in real war. I wonder what stuff the Pentagon might have sent to Ukraine for testing.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:44 pm to GOP_Tiger
Got a name of the one in pic?
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:17 pm to jeffsdad
ISW Update
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Russian authorities appear to be escalating their promotion of false flag information operations to distract from their lack of tangible battlefield gains and slow down the provision of Western tanks and other aid in advance of expected Ukrainian counter-offensives. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) accused the “US and its accomplices” on February 28 of planning to carry out a provocation in Ukraine using toxic chemicals.[1] The Russian MoD relatedly claimed on February 19 that Ukrainian officials are planning false-flag attacks at hazardous radiation facilities in Ukraine to accuse Russian forces of indiscriminately striking such sites.[2] The apparent uptick in fallacious biochemical and nuclear false flag warnings accompanies a concerted Russian false flag information operation accusing Ukraine of preparing for an invasion of Russian-occupied Transnistria, Moldova.[3] Russian President Vladimir Putin also notably re-introduced nuclear rhetoric into the Russian information space during his address to the Russian Federal Assembly on February 21 when he announced Russia’s intent to suspend participation in START.[4] The recent resurgence of several standard Russian information operations in the form of false flag warnings and tired nuclear threats suggests that Russian officials are increasingly trying to mitigate the informational impacts of a continued lack of Russian battlefield successes as well as to slow down the provision of Western tanks and other equipment in advance of expected Ukrainian counter-offensives.
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A top US defense official supported ISW’s continued assessment that Russia is extraordinarily unlikely to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Colin Kahl stated that the US does not assess that Russia will use nuclear weapons during a House Armed Service Committee hearing on American military support for Ukraine on February 28.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed the Federal Security Service (FSB) board on February 28 and emphasized the role of the FSB in supporting the war in Ukraine in a law enforcement and counterterrorism capacity. Putin lauded the FSB for its direct participation in the war in “non-standard field tasks” such as protection of the Russian border and cracking down on terrorist activities, organized crime, corruption, and extremism.[8] Putin also emphasized that the FSB’s primary purpose is to support the Russian Armed Forces and Rosgvardia in their efforts to accomplish the objectives of the “special military operation” and noted the FSB’s role in preventing incursions of Ukrainian sabotage groups onto Russian territory.
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The Kremlin is likely attempting to reintroduce a Russian information operation aimed at falsely portraying Russia as being open to negotiations while the collective West refuses to negotiate. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov stated on February 28 that Russian officials are open to negotiations to end the war in Ukraine but that Ukraine and the West must recognize new “territorial realities” associated with Russia’s illegal annexation of occupied territories in Ukraine.[11] Peskov added that Ukraine also needs to consider Russia’s specific goals in the war in Ukraine to reach a negotiated settlement.[12] These goals include regime change of the Ukrainian government under the rubric of “denazification“ and the elimination of Ukraine’s ability to defend itself against future Russian attacks under the rubric of “demilitarization.”[13] Peskov also stated that Russia made serious preparations for security talks before launching the invasion of Ukraine but accused the West of being unreceptive to such talks.[14] Russia’s suggested pre-invasion security talks called for the West to acknowledge a list of “security guarantees” demanding a moratorium on NATO expansion, a ban on the deployment of Western strike weapons near Russia, and the de facto withdrawal of NATO forces to their 1997 posture
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The Kremlin appears to be using Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko as a conduit to reengage with this information operation, likely in pursuit of negotiations on favorable terms to Russia and further delays in the West’s provision of critical weapons systems to Ukraine. Lukashenko stated during his official trip to China that Russia is ready to take steps towards a peaceful settlement and that there is a unique opportunity to end the war in Ukraine before Russia puts its economy on a stronger war footing.[16] Lukashenko also blamed the West and the US for coercing Ukrainian officials into rejecting negotiations with Russia
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Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko may facilitate sanctions evasion schemes between Russia and China during his official trip to Beijing, China from February 28 – March 2. Deutsche Welle reported that Lukashenko will sign a large package of agreements on developing joint projects, trade, economic, investment, humanitarian cooperation, and political cooperation with China during his three-day visit.[19] Lukashenko previously stated that the Belarusian defense industry can produce weapons since Belarus has access to microelectronics, optics, and other component imports from other states.[20] Ukrainian intelligence officials stated that Belarus supplied Russia with artillery ammunition from Belarusian warehouses to support operations in Ukraine.[21] US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director William Burns stated on February 25 that the CIA is confident that Chinese leadership is considering the provision of lethal equipment to Russia.[22] China may clandestinely transfer equipment to Russia via Belarus.
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Key Takeaways
Russian authorities appear to be escalating their promotion of false flag information operations in an effort to distract from their lack of tangible battlefield gains and slow down the provision of Western tanks and other aid in advance of expected Ukrainian counter-offensives.
US Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Colin Kahl stated that the US has no indication that Russian forces will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin emphasized the role of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) in supporting the war in Ukraine during an address to the FSB board.
The Kremlin and Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko are likely attempting to intensify efforts to falsely portray Russia as open to negotiations to end its war in Ukraine.
Lukashenko may facilitate Sino-Russian sanctions evasion schemes during his official trip to Beijing, China from February 28 to March 2.
Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks near Svatove and Kreminna and likely made limited advances north of Kreminna.
Russian forces made tactical gains in northern Bakhmut and continued ground attacks around Bakhmut and in the Avdiivka-Donetsk City area.
Ukrainian officials continue to report potential Russian preparations for renewed offensive operations in Zaporizhia and Kherson oblasts, though ISW has not observed indicators that Russian forces plan to renew offensive operations in these directions.
Armenian authorities detained a Russian citizen in Yerevan for an act of protest against the war in Ukraine committed in Moscow in July 2022.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky enacted a Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council decision to sanction 109 Russian citizens involved in the forced deportation of Ukrainian children.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:20 pm to StormyMcMan
Feels like more and more pushing and pushing into spillover
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:30 pm to Jim Rockford
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He looks like a giant malevolent rabbit.

This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:36 pm to GOP_Tiger
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These are the prototypes for two different possible successor systems to the Gepard system, which has been hugely important in protecting Ukrainian cities from the Iranian Shahed drones.
Didn't these pop up earlier in the thread last year with this video? Looks bad arse but would be an ammo sink in heavy engagements.
Youtube - Rheinmetall Air Defence: Skynex truck-mounted engaging drone swarm 2022
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:46 pm to jeffsdad
I thought it was going to be a video of them actually engaging a Russian drone swarm, not a promotional video by the manufacturer.
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