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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:31 am to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:31 am to
Europe still sucks

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The struggle to deliver on promises to provide Leopard 2 tanks for use against Russian forces has exposed just how unprepared European militaries are.


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Some nations have discovered that the tanks in their armory don’t actually work or lack spare parts. Political leaders have encountered unanticipated resistance within their own coalitions, and even from their defense ministries. And some armies had to pull trainers out of retirement to teach Ukrainian soldiers how to use old-model tanks.


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Of course some nations have delivered, or at least announced that they will,” Germany’s defense minister, Boris Pistorius, said at the Munich Security Conference this month. “But others have not done that.” “That is what I’m a bit shocked about,” he added. “Clearly there were some nations — and I will never name names here — but we had some nations that preferred to hide behind Germany. To say: We would love to, if we were allowed. But when we allowed it, they didn’t do anything.”


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For years, the United States has been nagging Europe to increase military spending, and in 2014, after Russia grabbed Crimea, NATO members agreed to spend 2 percent of GDP by 2024. Yet even today, by current NATO estimates, only nine of the alliance’s 30 members are spending that much, while a 10th is close. Thirteen countries, including Germany, were spending around 1.5 percent of their G.D.P. or even less.


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Spain, which has 108 Leopard 2A4 tanks, early on sought German permission to offer some of its vehicles to Ukraine. Now it has discovered that many of them are in poor condition and need refurbishment that could take weeks or months. On top of that, one of the prime minister’s coalition partners, the leftist Podemos party, is closer to Russia and has been resistant to offering more support for Ukraine.


Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22502 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:51 am to
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The struggle to deliver on promises to provide Leopard 2 tanks for use against Russian forces has exposed just how unprepared European militaries are.


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Some nations have discovered that the tanks in their armory don’t actually work or lack spare parts. Political leaders have encountered unanticipated resistance within their own coalitions, and even from their defense ministries. And some armies had to pull trainers out of retirement to teach Ukrainian soldiers how to use old-model tanks.


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Of course some nations have delivered, or at least announced that they will,” Germany’s defense minister, Boris Pistorius, said at the Munich Security Conference this month. “But others have not done that.” “That is what I’m a bit shocked about,” he added. “Clearly there were some nations — and I will never name names here — but we had some nations that preferred to hide behind Germany. To say: We would love to, if we were allowed. But when we allowed it, they didn’t do anything.”


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For years, the United States has been nagging Europe to increase military spending, and in 2014, after Russia grabbed Crimea, NATO members agreed to spend 2 percent of GDP by 2024. Yet even today, by current NATO estimates, only nine of the alliance’s 30 members are spending that much, while a 10th is close. Thirteen countries, including Germany, were spending around 1.5 percent of their G.D.P. or even less.


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Spain, which has 108 Leopard 2A4 tanks, early on sought German permission to offer some of its vehicles to Ukraine. Now it has discovered that many of them are in poor condition and need refurbishment that could take weeks or months. On top of that, one of the prime minister’s coalition partners, the leftist Podemos party, is closer to Russia and has been resistant to offering more support for Ukraine.





Pathetic as hell. Many on here have made fun of Russia's incompetence over the past year, but these clowns are just as bad. Trump was 100% right about them and Nato. They get defense provided by the American taxpayer while they wallow in their social programs.
Why should the American taxpayer continue to have to shoulder this burden while these "allies" won't even defend themselves? I say to hell with them.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:53 am to
Correct assumption about Crimea. the worst part is the Ukraine, desparate for cash flow, Leased the base at Sevastopol to Russia years ago. Russia started building dikes across the straits towards Crimea pre 2014 as a means to encroach on the peninsula. A Ukrainian island in the middle requested "bazookas" to deter the Russians.

Nutters are going to holler "NULAND" without any actual assessment of the content of her statement
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 7:54 am
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:19 am to
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@EuromaidanPR
Military training will start in Transnistria from tomorrow, March 1, - the "Ministry of Defense" of the unrecognized republic reports.
The reason is allegedly possible provocations from Ukraine.
#UkraineHolds
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:30 am to
From The Drive: first image of A-50 shows it largely intact:

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19361 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:40 am to
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Spain, which has 108 Leopard 2A4 tanks, early on sought German permission to offer some of its vehicles to Ukraine. Now it has discovered that many of them are in poor condition and need refurbishment that could take weeks or months. On top of that, one of the prime minister’s coalition partners, the leftist Podemos party, is closer to Russia and has been resistant to offering more support for Ukraine.

A country dominated by left wing and socialist policies neglected it's military infrastructure (and I'm sure a select few got very wealthy while hiding said neglect)and can't live up to their end of of a deal?

Why is this not surprising?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:50 am to
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Correct assumption about Crimea. the worst part is the Ukraine, desparate for cash flow, Leased the base at Sevastopol to Russia years ago. Russia started building dikes across the straits towards Crimea pre 2014 as a means to encroach on the peninsula. A Ukrainian island in the middle requested "bazookas" to deter the Russians.

Nutters are going to holler "NULAND" without any actual assessment of the content of her statement


My point is that official US policy is now that Crimea is going to have to be, at a minimum, demilitarized. There were people in here arguing with me a few days ago and saying that there's no way that Russia is going to give up that base.

There has been a lot of recent speculation about a possible British/French/German outline of a possible peace deal that could entail security guarantees for Ukraine in exchange for a less-than-ideal territorial settlement, and I am saying that it will not include Russian control over Crimea.

Unless Russia wins this war, the bare minimum outcome for Ukraine -- and for NATO -- is going to be an independent Crimea with UN peacekeepers.

That's because Ukraine can have no real security guarantees with that naval base threatening the sea lanes from Odessa, because the Port of Odessa is foundational to Ukraine's economy.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3786 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:58 am to
WSJ - Russia Turns to China's Yuan in Effort to Ditch the Dollar

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Moscow has jettisoned longstanding concerns about giving China too much leverage over its economy


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Russia’s economy, restricted from Western financial networks and the U.S. dollar, has embraced a burgeoning alternative: the Chinese yuan.

Energy exporters are increasingly getting paid in yuan. Russia’s sovereign-wealth fund, a war chest to support government spending burdened by battlefield costs in Ukraine, is using the Chinese currency to store its oil riches. Russian companies have borrowed in yuan, also known as renminbi, and households are stashing savings in it.

The Chinese currency’s rise inside Russia deepens ties between two countries that have long rivaled each other for global influence but have grown closer amid shared discontent with the West. It also serves China’s long standing but mostly frustrated campaign to make the yuan a more prominent feature of global finance and commerce.

Moscow has jettisoned concerns about giving China too much leverage over its economy, said Alexander Gabuev, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

“Now it’s the only rational choice for Russia and for Putin,” Mr. Gabuev said. “If depending on renminbi is the lifeline that helps you to be less exposed and less dependent on hostile currencies, then you take this route.”

A spokesperson for the Russian Ministry of Finance said the yuan is “taking an increasingly important role” in its sovereign-wealth fund, which doubled the share of yuan it can hold to 60% in December. The ministry started selling yuan in January to plug its widening budget deficit.

The share of Russian exports paid for in yuan rose to 14% by September, according to data from the central bank. That is up from 0.4% before the start of the war.

Spokespeople for China’s central bank didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Russia began cutting its dependence on the dollar in 2014 after its annexation of Crimea. By 2018, as the U.S. imposed additional economic sanctions, the country began to sell its holdings of U.S. Treasury bonds and explore trade in rubles and other currencies.

De-dollarization went into overdrive, and widened to include the euro, last year. Western countries froze some $300 billion of Russia’s foreign reserves and banned some of its banks from the SWIFT messaging system that underpins most global payments in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Russians don’t face an outright ban on using dollars or euros, and non-sanctioned banks continue to do business in foreign currencies.

Booming trade between Russia and China added to the yuan’s appeal. China has become a major buyer of Russian oil that is shunned by the West, while Russia has grown more dependent on China for semiconductors and other technology.

Russian companies have also turned to the yuan and issued bonds in the Chinese currency worth the equivalent of more than $7 billion last year, according to Refinitiv data. In recent weeks, the yuan-ruble was often the most traded currency pair on the Moscow Exchange based on daily volume.

Aluminum giant Rusal was the first company to issue yuan bonds inside Russia last August, and other commodity exporters like oil firm Rosneft followed. Most trade with China and can use yuan raised for everyday business, for example to pay invoices.

Bistrodengi, a Russian lending platform, started selling yuan bonds last year despite not doing any business in the Chinese currency. The company’s chief finance officer, Yakov Romashkin, said borrowing in yuan was far cheaper than rubles. Its bonds offer a coupon rate of 8% instead of the 19% that it likely would have had to pay to borrow in rubles.

The Russian broker that arranged Bistrodengi’s previous ruble bond offerings ran the deal, and buyers were predominantly individual Russian investors, he said. It swapped the yuan back into rubles.

Mr. Romashkin said there were technological hiccups. Some brokers weren’t fully set up to sell yuan securities, with some displaying incorrect information about Bistrodengi’s bonds, he said. Some didn’t allow investors to buy bonds using their app, instead requiring trades be done over the phone.


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“When people see the ruble is getting weaker and weaker, they don’t care about the yield, they just want to save their money,” she said.

While still in its early days, some see Russia’s yuan use as a test case in a debate that has long captivated the financial world: Will the yuan eventually rival the dollar as the world’s dominant currency?

But building the infrastructure to circumvent the dollar-based financial system built up over decades is slow, difficult and expensive, said Eswar Prasad, a professor at Cornell University and former head of the International Monetary Fund’s China division.

China launched a cross-border payments system known as CIPS in 2015 that has been billed as an eventual competitor to the 50-year-old SWIFT network. But its system hasn’t yet been widely adopted by other countries, according to Mr. Prasad. Instead, Russian and Chinese banks rely on networks of local branches and correspondent banks to process transactions without SWIFT. The Russian central bank this month set up an international settlements department it said would focus on expanding settlements in national currencies.

While Russia’s use of the yuan doesn’t mean the end of dollar supremacy, it may usher in the beginning of a more fractured system that could ultimately blunt the U.S.’s ability to use financial sanctions as a weapon, said Daniel McDowell, a professor at Syracuse University who recently wrote a book on the topic.

“The more countries you force to find those alternatives,” Mr. McDowell said, “effectively what you’re going to do is increase economies of scale and experience in those areas.”
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6884 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:00 am to
Looks like the Ukrainians launched a drone attack on an oil refinery on the black sea coast of Russia...430KM away from Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1630474686390779905
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/1. Russian media report that around 2 a.m. on February 28. Two drones with explosives attacked the Rosneft oil depot near the city of Tuapse. Distance to the territory controlled by Ukraine from there is +430km.


Video also at link




More...
Video of the strike
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1630535256938774528


Then there's this in the opposite direction
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1630532260100276227

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/5. Not far from Moscow, near the village of Gubastovo, a drone fell next to an object owned by Gazprom. The drone is reportedly a UJ-22. - Russian media
The distance to the border with Ukraine from Gubastovo is ~450km





Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6884 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:04 am to
Interesting surveillance system being deployed in Ukraine

Video at link
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1630507676407930883
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????Rheinmetall is cooperating with ????DefSecIntel to provide to ???? SurveilSPIRE, which consist of mobile surveillance towers with day and night-capable camera equipment, autopiloted mini drones and a control system.
Delivery has already commenced - Reuters

Source Reuters Story
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6884 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:07 am to
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1630146748751413251

Video at link
Necessity is the mother of invention...Improvised MLRS x 3. Appears to be built with equipment provided by Germany

Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6884 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:12 am to
Intense video showing Ukrainians attacking a Russian trench and the ensuing firefight. One of the Ukrainians gets hit, later in the video, you see another rendering aid to him while another engages a Russian in a firefight.

https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1630530661499953152
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The video shows how soldiers of the 93rd Brigade storm the Russian trenches.
#Bahmut #Ukraine?
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6884 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:15 am to
Another intense video of a Russian BTR attacking a Ukrainian in a trench.

https://twitter.com/TankDiary/status/1629893875245481986

Video at link
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Your BTR-82A only has a 30mm cannon to attack a dug-in position? No problem - this Ru BTR-82A suppresses a Ua solider defending a trench (w/ what looks like a grenade launcher) whilst an infantryman fires rounds of RPG-26. The Ua infantryman does an admirable job holding out.




Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6884 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:20 am to
More detail on the drone close to Moscow. Looks like the target might have been the Voskresensk Gas Compressor Station. Was Ukraine trying to cut off gas to Moscow???

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1630545767604670467
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#Russia: A Ukrainian UKRJET UJ-22 UAV crashed close to the Voskresensk gas compressor station in the Kolomensky district of #Moscow Oblast.

It would've traveled 600km+ if launched from Ukrainian territory- possibly the deepest attempted Ukrainian drone strike of the war.

The UJ-22 has a maximum autonomous flight range of 800km and can carry both a recon and combat payload, with a weight of up to 20kg.

It is also feasible that this particular drone may have been adapted to be used as a kamikaze UAV.





Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9806 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:23 am to
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My point is that official US policy is now that Crimea is going to have to be, at a minimum, demilitarized. There were people in here arguing with me a few days ago and saying that there's no way that Russia is going to give up that base.


I 100% agree that Crimea has to neutralized at a bare minimum. It isn't too difficult to make occupation by Russia untenable even if ground is taken up to it neck of it.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9806 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:24 am to
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More detail on the drone close to Moscow. Looks like the target might have been the Voskresensk Gas Compressor Station. Was Ukraine trying to cut off gas to Moscow???


That would have been quite thing to achieve. Just as Russian media is claiming that everyone in Europe and UK is freezing.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58413 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:27 am to
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Russia’s economy, restricted from Western financial networks and the U.S. dollar, has embraced a burgeoning alternative: the Chinese yuan.


Good. It will make it all more glorious when China’s economy implodes in the next five years
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1519 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:44 am to
In spite of the propaganda, the reasons for Putin's deep ties to Crimea are not of a historical or cultural nature. It is also why the possession of Crimea is so critical to Ukraine -
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Prior to Russia's annexation of the Crimean autonomy in 2014, Ukraine made some progress in increasing gas production on the shallow northwest shelf. In 2013, it grew up to 1.65 bcm. In 2015, production was to reach 3 bcm due to the completion of the Odeske and Bezimenne fields with resource reserves of not less than 35 bcm of natural gas. At that time, Chornomornaftogaz PJSC owned 17 fields, of which 11 gas fields, 4 gas condensate fields and 2 oil fields. The total reserves of these fields were: 58.56 bcm of natural gas, 1,231 thousand tons of gas condensate, 2,530 thousand tons of oil.

Following the annexation of the Crimea by the Russian Federation, Ukraine lost the ability to produce hydrocarbons in a number of fields (Bezimenne, Odeske, Arkhangelske, Shtormove, Schmidta), as well as continue exploration work in other promising areas (Zakhidno-Golitsynska, Kulisna and the Dnieper paleochannel).

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Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:52 am to
Twitter vid - NATO chief says Allie’s have agreed Ukraine will become a NATO member long term

They also call for more aid and for quicker delivery to ensure Ukraine can win and end the war.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
2863 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:59 am to
The press before and after they received instructions



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