re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Recent international developments as regards the ongoing conflict is that China is increasingly signaling they want the fighting to end. They've declined to support Russia's invasion and have begun asking pointed questions about the fighting.

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China doesn’t support losers. I think they regard Russia as a paper tiger now and want to replace them as the center of power in northern Asia.

I see the Chinese prying all the former Soviet Asian nations away from Russia. They have already told Russia that they won’t allow Kazakhstan to be invaded.

Subsequently, Kazakhstan told Putin to go finger himself regarding joint military exercises with the Collective Security Treaty Organization.

Armenia, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan have all followed suit. The CSTO is dead.

The cost to Russia for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is incalculable.

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China doesn’t support losers. I think they regard Russia as a paper tiger now and want to replace them as the center of power in northern Asia.

I see the Chinese prying all the former Soviet Asian nations away from Russia. They have already told Russia that they won’t allow Kazakhstan to be invaded.

Subsequently, Kazakhstan told Putin to go finger himself regarding joint military exercises with the Collective Security Treaty Organization.

Armenia, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan have all followed suit. The CSTO is dead.

The cost to Russia for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is incalculable.

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i actually think this whole thing emboldens china and they start taking pieces up north. to me this sets up china long term like you stated.

but i dont think china can maintain it as i think they are heading off a economic cliff worse than us in later 23/early 24

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One of these days there will be a news article done on this site that will feature the Poli Board.

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I say this to my friends all of the time. It’s honestly wild over there. Like an 8chan or Qanon breeding ground. Any of the big main stream media companies would have a field day painting southern college football fans as raving lunatic racists- and that’s where they would point for their evidence.

I guess that depends on the definition of Psyop.

I view a Psyop as an action by a government to influence another nation's opinion of a certain event. Propaganda is when a government does it to its own citizens.

I think both are present in the case of our support for Ukraine. Russia is obviously trying to weaken the US support for Ukraine (Psyop) while the Ukrainian Government is trying to our support via their own psyop and internal propaganda.

As to the US's own propaganda, since this administration supports Ukraine their messaging is aligning with their actions...you could call that propaganda.

ETA: Here is a good example of Ukrainian propaganda from today.

The Ukrainian government is using a recording of what appears to be an unscripted event to rally its citizens. This is absolutely propaganda put out by the Ukrainian government.

Video in link
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1579492177797079042

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Ukraine’s spirit is unbreakable.
Residents of Kyiv sing in a metro station during an air raid alert.

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Wow, that was a hot fire. Wonder what it might have done to the concrete?

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Yeah, I and I suspect several other posters have been told by the mods not to post on this thread, but yeah this is the place that isn’t the bubble and telling you the truth.

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I think it’s been shown opposing views that are supported, even if the majority of the posters disagree with it, are of no issue. It’s the trolls and unsupported Putin fellatio that’s the issue.

Another poster has even said they’re fine with your posting here. It’s a bit manic and worst case scenario possible, but at least we know where you’re coming from and there is a basis to it, albeit very exaggerated on your part to most peoples opinion.

It’s the “Zelensky is moscow yet?” And completely unsupported, in fact 95% of the time totally counter to open source intel, Russia propaganda pumping that is the issue.

Are there posters that go into the PT thread from this one and post “Putin in Kyiv yet?” and the like? Just drive by shitposting? I don’t go look so I truly don’t know.

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quote: I suspect several other posters have been told by the mods not to post on this thread

quote: Private Message: you can post but stop flaming the Ukraine thread...probably best to avoid it all together......Click here to remove this message.

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So see my last post. Don’t shitpost and there won’t be issue

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but i dont think china can maintain it as i think they are heading off a economic cliff worse than us in later 23/early 24

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Agreed. Unless Xi's rumored cerebral aneurysm does the country a solid, China is being systematically gutted by a megalomaniac.

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China doesn’t support losers. I think they regard Russia as a paper tiger now and want to replace them as the center of power in northern Asia.

I see the Chinese prying all the former Soviet Asian nations away from Russia. They have already told Russia that they won’t allow Kazakhstan to be invaded.

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Agree with this very much. I keep thinking back to right before the invasion and wonder if Xi saw this as a win win. Potentially got Putin to delay until after the Olympics making the timing worst possible for his success. Putin’s hubris obviously found this inconsequential.

If it went as expected Xi likes his chances for Taiwan and has a strong ally in support. If it failed, he knew he could replace Russia in these former satellites and greatly diversify its energy and other natural resource partners, likely in the same vein as they have with African nations.

The downside is this gamble is that it emboldened the west in unity on like issues making the inevitable future conflict much more difficult for the Chinese.