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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:38 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:38 am to
You are dangerously good at this.




The explosion was literally within 5 minutes after your post.
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Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:39 am to
That ain't gonna buff right out.

What a birthday present for Putin. We were wondering what those boats were washing up on the Crimean coast were for.

Who knows what else Ukraine SpecOps has planned?

And right before a major offensive? Just Brilliant strategy.

Unfortunately in the interim Putin and his mercs will be targeting civilians in high rise apartments.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30449 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:54 am to
This YT video has some footage I haven't seen including some workers driving up to the damage from the Crimean side:

YT

At 1:08 I found the culprit:



Russia needs some

Posted by CrazyDawgGirl
SC
Member since Feb 2022
9 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 3:02 am to
Wikipedia already updated. Instead of "The bridge is” it's "The bridge was".
Number of lanes: 0
Lol
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 3:03 am to
Russian media share video of Crimean Bridge explosion
Saturday, 8 October 2022, 09:38


Russian occupation media have begun sharing a video that captured the moment of the explosion on the Crimean Bridge.

Source: Russian media

Details: A video that seems to capture the moment of the explosion on the Crimean Bridge has been shared on social media and across Russian media.

Ukrainska Pravda

Explosion Video
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Posted by CrazyDawgGirl
SC
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 3:10 am to
“The National Anti-Terrorism Committee of the Russian Federation has claimed that a truck was blown up on the Crimean Bridge.” Hmm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8598 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 3:22 am to
Wow that escalated quickly. Good for Ukraine. They didn’t just sit back in fear of Putin’s threats of using nukes and said frick you I’m going for the throat in Crimea. This is without a doubt Ukrainian SOF from what I can see. This looks like a pro job of setting charges the way that bridge collapsed. It’s been a long time coming fir this. They are screwed resupplying the south right now. Ukraine officially sending a message to Putin saying “frick off”.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 3:50 am
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8598 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:00 am to
The rail bridge not going down is a disappointment though because once they get that train moved they will have relatively minor reasons to put it back in action. I would have eager the rail bridge go down than the car span of it but still a damn good start. I’d expect the job tries to get finished on the railway bridge but Russia is going to have security crawling all over it for a while so it will have to come from the air by missile or aviation.
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Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:30 am to
quote:

?? Ukrposhta is issuing a new stamp dedicated to the burning Crimean Bridge, the release date will be announced separately, - General Director of Ukrposhta Ihor Smilyanskyi.


LINK
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:39 am to
Good first analysis
LINK

quote:

Initial indications are that the Kerch bridge was hit by a truck based IED. Damage to the bridge seems overall consistent with this

The railings blown outwards on this video do indicate that the truck was the center of the explosion. There is not much damage visible to the roadway, as the section directly below the truck is under water.

Damage to the section in red caused it to break in half, as can also be seen in the video above. This structural failure then caused the section in blue to fall off the pier and into the water

The location of the blast also aided the blue section in sliding off its support and into the water. The explosion happened right at the begining of the incline. This meant gravity assisted in making the blue section slide backwards and off its supports.

As for other theories currently in play, there does appear to be a wake appearing under the section directly next to the explosion just prior. This could indicate a possible boat. The video is inconclusive and not long enough to know if wakes like this happen regularly

Neither of the two videos available allow us to see the exact origin of the explosion.

Scorching location on the rail bridge pier points to the explosion originating on the top of the roadway and not below. Inconclusive, but it doesn't seem to be the result of the subsequent burning of the rail cars.

As also stated above it could be the result of the burning rail cars, but it is inconclusive as the footage we have of the fire is limited at this time and does not show burning fuel leaking in that location. This could of course have happened prior to the video being recorded.

If it was the truck that exploded, then it is interesting to note that it originated from the Russian side and not the Crimean side of the bridge.

I do not know if security is as strict on this side of the bridge or they mainly focus on vehicles leaving Crimea.

The security check of the truck that was at the center of the explosion.

Hardly the most in depth security check.

If the explosion did not involve the truck, this man was extremely unlucky.


The last tweet shows the security check of the truck. Guy basically opens the back and says good to go.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:56 am to
quote:

Initial indications are that the Kerch bridge was hit by a truck based IED. Damage to the bridge seems overall consistent with this


I stand corrected.

quote:

If it was the truck that exploded, then it is interesting to note that it originated from the Russian side and not the Crimean side of the bridge.


quote:

The last tweet shows the security check of the truck. Guy basically opens the back and says good to go.


If it was indeed a truck bomb, my next question was going to be "How did it get allowed onto the bridge?" Even if it came from the Crimean side of the bridge, access to the bridge would have to be tightly monitored. It's the lifeline between Russia and the troops in Crimea.






It took 4,800 pounds of ammonium nitrate fertilizer to bring down the front of the Murrah building in OKC. Are the guards not checking the manifest for the truck and spot-checking for warning signs of a bomb (for example, 2.5 tons of high explosives)?
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 5:02 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:12 am to
Hahahahahahahaha!
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17240 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:15 am to
If it was the truck does that mean we are looking at a suicide bomber?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:29 am to
quote:

The rail bridge not going down is a disappointment though because once they get that train moved they will have relatively minor reasons to put it back in action


There is absolutely zero chance that the rail bridge can be quickly put back in action. Several big sections were engulfed with intense flames. What do you think that does to the metal holding it together?

Even moving the train will be challenging and dangerous, as those sections could collapse at any time.

Even the concrete pieces themselves will be held together with rebar that just melted.

[Edit: maybe I am wrong.]

quote:

Russia says train traffic over the Crimean bridge will resume this evening. That would indicate Russia will still be able to supply the front line in Ukraine via that route – or wants everyone to think it will


LINK
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 7:26 am
Posted by CalcuttaTigah
Member since Jul 2009
1001 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:31 am to
Holy shite if true. I wonder who manufactures that? If that is US made and it was used to basically strike Crimea in, I feel like they just ratcheted things up a bit.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 5:50 am to
Well, I did not wake up expecting to see this. Yikes.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26943 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 6:00 am to
This greatly worsens an already poor logistical situation for Russia as regards the Southern area of operations in Ukraine. The Ukrainian military is like a boxer that keeps landing body blow after body blow to their opponent.

It is also another blow to Russian prestige. The sinking of the Moskva, the Kharkiv counter offensive, damage to the unbreakable bridge... hard to put a positive spin on events.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 6:02 am to
quote:

The explosion was literally within 5 minutes after your post.



He's obviously our good luck charm. I hope he keeps trolling.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8192 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 6:03 am to
I would be surprised if this bridge could be put back into full service in six months. If those bridge piers need to be replaced, which I suspect they do, it could be longer.

They will have to mobilize a pretty substantial construction crew to remove the damaged sections and replace with new. It’s going to be a dozen pieces of civilian floating equipment or more.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 6:14 am to
quote:

Watch for the Ukrainian attack on Melitopol to kick off now. With the bridge down, the only supply route to Kherson flows through Melitopol


Not really. The rail line to Melitopol goes from Donetsk and is right at the current front line.

There is no current rail supply from Russia to southern Ukraine. Russia is going to have to use ferries across the Kerch Strait. It's a total logistical disaster.

Any doubt that Kherson will fall within several weeks? Gone.

quote:

The railroad from Donetsk to Volnovakha (colored in orange) is unusable. It's in 120 mm mortar range (yellow circles) and in L119 105 mm howitzer range (green circle). Where the railroad is closest to the front it is even Javelin range - no train can pass here. Not one.


LINK
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 6:16 am
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