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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:57 am to Obtuse1
Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:57 am to Obtuse1
Under water explosion with upward force to lift the bridge span? But at the same time the Trane is passing? But no visible explosive damage to the passenger car section?
Very odd. Want to see more angles.
Very odd. Want to see more angles.
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:04 am to Sooner5030
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:05 am to tigeraddict
Once the shock of the loss of the rail bridge and at least one full direction of the road bridge sets in, then the real question that will send propaganda shocks all through the Ukraine, Crimea, and Russia will set in.
It is a real simple question that has very interesting implications.
If this is a timed explosion (which right now is an assumption), which way was the train traveling when it happened? If the train was traveling from Russia to the Crimea, that implies that the charges were set in Russia.
If the charges were set in Russia, there are all sorts of questions regarding the operation of Ukrainian special forces in Russia, the partisan activity happening in Russia proper, and the very basic how could Russia let this happen?
It is a real simple question that has very interesting implications.
If this is a timed explosion (which right now is an assumption), which way was the train traveling when it happened? If the train was traveling from Russia to the Crimea, that implies that the charges were set in Russia.
If the charges were set in Russia, there are all sorts of questions regarding the operation of Ukrainian special forces in Russia, the partisan activity happening in Russia proper, and the very basic how could Russia let this happen?
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:05 am to CrazyDawgGirl
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FFS lol STILL butthurt over this???
Yeah, still butt hurt over them stripping my freedoms, ruining the country, and murdering my uncle. Sorry, not getting over that even if you are too fricking stupid to do so. You will not be receiving an apology.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:08 am to tigeraddict
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Under water explosion with upward force to lift the bridge span?
Out of context, it looks like storm damage where waves broke the span from the bearings and lifted it up and dropped it.
There is CCTV pointed directly at the first fallen span, I would love to see the footage.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:14 am to Obtuse1
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:14 am to Sooner5030
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:17 am to Dr RC
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Would be completely on brand for him. He acts like a massive baby every time somebody challenges the bullshite he vomits out. He is completely incapable of ever admitting he's wrong about anything.
Sounds like a Progressive
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:18 am to Sooner5030
From Russian State TV:
ETA
ETA their most recent update
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At about six o'clock in the morning, a fuel tank caught fire on the bridge, which was in the tail of a freight train. As a result, one of the spans of the automobile part of the bridge collapsed, traffic on it was completely blocked, road services and the Ministry of Emergency Situations are working on the spot . The authorities are preparing to resume ferry service with the Krasnodar Territory.
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“I ask everyone to use only official information. A lot of enemy fakes and stuffing have appeared,” Oleg Kryuchkov, an adviser to the head of Crimea, wrote on his Telegram channel.
ETA
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On Saturday morning, a fuel tank caught fire at the tail end of a freight train. The locomotive with part of the cars was brought to the Kerch station. Emergency work is underway. According to the National Anti-Terrorism Committee, a truck was blown up on the automobile bridge, two spans of the bridge collapsed.
ETA their most recent update
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The damage on the Crimean bridge is not serious and will be promptly restored, the head of the Crimean parliament, Vladimir Konstantinov, promised.
Speaking about the alleged causes of the emergency fire, he blamed Ukraine for the incident.
"Ukrainian vandals still managed to reach out with their bloodied hands to the Crimean bridge. Now they have something to be proud of: for 23 years of their management, they have not managed to build anything worthy of attention in Crimea, but they managed to damage the canvas of the Russian bridge," Konstantinov wrote in his Telegram -channel.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 1:23 am
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:23 am to Obtuse1
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This has the look of an 8 hour swim with rebreathers with very small very well-prepared charges like ribbon charges
Maybe underwater autonomous robot technology is better than we thought.
These things have been washing up on shore. What else is out there?
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:23 am to Obtuse1
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From Russian State TV:
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At about six o'clock in the morning, a fuel tank caught fire on the bridge, which was in the tail of a freight train. As a result, one of the spans of the automobile part of the bridge collapsed,
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The damage on the Crimean bridge is not serious and will be promptly restored
Russian people:
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 1:25 am
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:25 am to UndercoverBryologist
That's fine. If they're pushing that narrative it means they're not itching to escalate over this.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:30 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:34 am to Sooner5030
Sure looks like it, and it looks like a vehicle blew up. Suicide bomber? That would be a new twist for this war.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:40 am to Jim Rockford
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Suicide bomber?
If that footage is legit, the vehicle’s passage is probably coincidental. It would take a Timothy McVeigh-style Ryder truck ANFO bomb to bring down the bridge.
And even if it were that big, would it even trigger explosions on the train bridge?
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 2:00 am
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:46 am to Jim Rockford
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Sure looks like it, and it looks like a vehicle blew up. Suicide bomber?
I don't think it was a truck. If you look at the footage from the road there are two sets of a truck and a car on that span. The first truck and car are already on the uphill grade when the explosion hits and the second truck and car you see putting on their brake lights. The one truck coming in the opposite direction has its lights on after the explosion. I think the explosion came from below.
ETA made a gif
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 2:10 am
Posted on 10/8/22 at 1:59 am to Obtuse1
Daylight aftermath video in this link
https://t.me/c/1552544518/6106
https://t.me/c/1552544518/6106
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??There are footage of the consequences of blowing up the Crimean bridge??
Asphalt and metal stupidly blown to shreds.
For some reason, I remembered that during the construction we were told that this bridge was made SO powerfully, that it would withstand even a nuclear strike ... And then just a fricking truck blew up.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:03 am to Chromdome35
I'm not an engineer but in the daylight aftermath video, the two spans that fell are separated by a span that didn't fall.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:17 am to Chromdome35
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I'm not an engineer but in the daylight aftermath video, the two spans that fell are separated by a span that didn't fall.
There are definitely two sections down that are not continuous. I'll make a gif from the video.
ETA watch until the end and you see the second unconnected span out.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 2:30 am
Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:33 am to Obtuse1
Secretary of Ukraine’s Security Council reacts jokingly to Crimean Bridge fire
Saturday, 8 October 2022, 09:47
Oleksii Danilov, Secretary of the National Security Council of Ukraine, has shared a video of the fire on the Crimean Bridge accompanied by the song "Happy Birthday, Mr President" [referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s birthday on 7 October - ed.].
Source: Oleksii Danilov on Facebook
Details: Danilov shared a montage of two videos side by side: a video of the burning Crimean Bridge and a recording of Marilyn Monroe singing "Happy Birthday, Mr President".
Quote from Danilov: "Good morning, Ukraine!"
Ukrainska Pravda
Saturday, 8 October 2022, 09:47
Oleksii Danilov, Secretary of the National Security Council of Ukraine, has shared a video of the fire on the Crimean Bridge accompanied by the song "Happy Birthday, Mr President" [referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s birthday on 7 October - ed.].
Source: Oleksii Danilov on Facebook
Details: Danilov shared a montage of two videos side by side: a video of the burning Crimean Bridge and a recording of Marilyn Monroe singing "Happy Birthday, Mr President".
Quote from Danilov: "Good morning, Ukraine!"
Ukrainska Pravda
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