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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:53 pm to
I just wish he and other billionaires would shut up more often if they are speaking outside their field. There is a reason we have specialization of labor. They often make the information landscape way worse because when using social media, they are about as thoughtful as any average person, which means they aren't, but more people listen to what they say.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
849 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:54 pm to
Hey Russia here's a thought. Instead of wasting your few remaining S300 missiles on fleeing civilians and sleeping children, Why don't you try aiming at actual military targets that are trying to kill you.

Although given the fact that they shot down an airliner a few years ago for shits and giggles maybe aiming at innocents is all you're really good for.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 2:38 pm
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:56 pm to
Then he goes on to talk about how much money he lost by donating Starlink to Ukraine. People who give and then throw it in your face are always annoying.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
849 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:20 pm to
Russians are going full mask off with terrorism today. Just blew a dam allegedly in Donetsk according to Ukraine. 3900 people potentially affected

LINK
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 2:22 pm
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Russians are going full mask off with terrorism today. Just blew a dam allegedly in Donetsk according to Ukraine. 3900 people potentially affected


This is an attempt to slow UA movement.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:35 pm to
Something something better in the quad.

That being said I’d invade her Donbas
Posted by TexasTiger33
Member since Feb 2022
13364 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:39 pm to
Regretfully I have not been closely following developments and had some questions for the folks here, if you would.

1.) What is the most likely end scenario in this conflict?

2.) Will Europe have a major energy crisis this winter?

3.) Is either side gaining momentum in the fight currently?

Thank you in advance.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:44 pm to
1) Russia losing. Whether they lose crimea is TBD but they’re definitely gonna lose the breakaway areas.

2) some countries will cause they can’t plan anything more complex than a PTA meeting. That’s on them though, they had time.

3) Ukraine lol, where have you been? That’s like asking “who has the momentum” in the fourth quarter when one team is up 35-9
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26171 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

1.) What is the most likely end scenario in this conflict?


Anyone that says they know is blowing smoke.

quote:

2.) Will Europe have a major energy crisis this winter?


Some countries will be worse than others but it isn't going to be catastrophic like some have forecast. There was too much time to prepare.

quote:

3.) Is either side gaining momentum in the fight currently?


Over the last month or so it has been all Ukraine. Russia is currently on the back foot.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5819 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:58 pm to
They’ve had over 6 months to evacuate.

I wish the civilians would get out ASAP so that Ukraine can just rain missiles down on Kherson without worrying about anything but winning the war.
Posted by TexasTiger33
Member since Feb 2022
13364 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:58 pm to
Thank you. Just a couple more.

1.) How likely is it that NATO is drawn into the conflict thru formal means?

2.) What is general expectation of how long it will be until a resolution to the conflict is reached?
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

2.) What is general expectation of how long it will be until a resolution to the conflict is reached?

This question is a follow up to a question that can't be answered.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:04 pm to
1) No one knows, at this point, it is looking possible that Ukraine could expel Russia from its borders (not inclusive of Crimea which is a whole different beast). At this point however it ends will not be what Russia hoped to achieve at the start.

2) Maybe, this will partially depend on how cold/long the winter is.

3) As of today Ukraine has all of the initiative. Russia is going backward on two of the three major fronts and just maintaining the status quo on the third

Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:06 pm to
1) Unlikely unless Russia pops a nuke, then no one knows where it will end up.
2) Unknown at this time...very few people thought it would last this long.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58189 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

I like Musk and hope he ends up owning Twitter simply for the impact on the sky screamers. That said, he's not infallible.


He's going to end up with Twitter b/c he fricked up by waiving his rights to due diligence.

His cries that Twitter lied about bot info when he was trying to get out of the deal meant frick all from the moment he did that.


Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9884 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Russians are going full mask off with terrorism today. Just blew a dam allegedly in Donetsk according to Ukraine. 3900 people potentially affected


The only dams there are for cooling water ponds for the power plant. 3900 was before any evacuated, pre conflict population.

Edit: Also a "tailing" type pond for the ash created by the coal fired power plant
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 3:29 pm
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:25 pm to
LINK Ukraine success is causing infighting


Kirill Stremousov, Russian appointed leader in Kherson , suggests Defense Minster Shoigu shoot himself . Chechen leader Kadyrov & head of Wagner have also trashed Kremiln Military brass. Not quite directed at Putin yet , but this seems unusual to criticize high ranking officers in Russia. How long can they scapegoat High Ranking Officers before its directed at Putin?



Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

NEW - Ukraine's Zelensky calls on NATO to launch "preemptive strikes" against Russia to "eliminate the possibility" of a Russian nuclear strike.
LINK

I’m gonna have to disagree with Zelensky on this. A preemptive NATO strike on Russia would not be a good idea.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27467 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

A preemptive NATO strike on Russia would not be a good idea.


It's quite possibly the dumbest thing anyone has ever proposed.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:39 pm to
He had to know that was a non-starter before he ever said it which makes me wonder why he said it.

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