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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:12 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:12 pm to Obtuse1
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I think Vladimir Solovyov is the host of that show and is an old-school hardliner. My favorite is when he went on an ironical tirade. When I first watched it I thought the captions were a joke but can catch just enough Russian to verify it on a careful second watch.
Is finally seeing the light is telling the truth, or is he trying to be funny and actually telling the truth?
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:12 pm to mattz1122
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:19 pm to WeeWee
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This is probably another nothing burger or fake, but after the poor showing of South Ossetians at the International Army Games and the poor showing of Russia in Ukraine; Georgia might be wanting revenge from 2008.
If 16 HIMARS can defeat the Russian army in Ukraine I figure it will probably take half a HIMAR to retake South Ossetian.
Can someone make a Oprah gif of her saying you get a HIMAR, you get a HIMAR.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:26 pm to DabosDynasty
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A close friendship between they and a rebuilt Ukraine would surprise a lot of people at how much they’re capable of I think. They can anchor an eastern bloc to counter the nut jobs and pacifists in Western Europe, while standing strong to Russia.
Ukraine and Poland form an 80,000,000 person strong bloc of people who are going to understand the jungle grows back. I hope this war brings these two nations together in a meaningful way. Those two with modern weapons would pretty well shut down any further belligerence from the east for some period of time.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:30 pm to Obtuse1
He has been called a pederast monkey. So something monkey like might be more appropriate.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:31 pm to DabosDynasty
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They’re a frick around and find out nation, I think. They’ve got an identify and a unity. Strong military that’s about to get a lot more capable with significant equipment upgrades and increasing manpower. A close friendship between they and a rebuilt Ukraine would surprise a lot of people at how much they’re capable of I think. They can anchor an eastern bloc to counter the nut jobs and pacifists in Western Europe, while standing strong to Russia.
If anyone doubts Poland, they need to read about the Katyn massacre. That shite ain’t happening again to them.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:39 pm to Chromdome35
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ETA: Has this come from any other sources? I am skeptical given this guy's past.
I think he was being ironic and making some sort of point. My Russian is over 30 years old and can from a summer in Moscow being taught by an English speaking professor so not immersion. I have a hard time picking up much when he is speaking so fast (I needed tourist cadence even then with a 5yos vocabulary) but the words I pick up are in the right places at the right times to match. Again he is not being serious because he has continued to be a hardliner since then.
This is why I didn't post it when I saw it initially since it is confusing. I just thought it was funny.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:14 pm to Chromdome35
It looks to me like the Ukrainian eastern offensive has paused possibly ended. If they fire back up in the next week, then they just paused to resupply and reorganize.
I hope we start to see some real movement in the south, that offensive doesn’t seem to be progressing as much as the reporting indicates.
ETA: contrast that with NATO who would be rolling through the backside of the Donbas while simultaneously driving south towards melitopol.
I hope we start to see some real movement in the south, that offensive doesn’t seem to be progressing as much as the reporting indicates.
ETA: contrast that with NATO who would be rolling through the backside of the Donbas while simultaneously driving south towards melitopol.
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:24 pm to Chromdome35
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It looks to me like the Ukrainian eastern offensive has paused possibly ended. If they fire back up in the next week, then they just paused to resupply and reorganize.
I think that they were overextended and definitely needed to resupply and rest. There are plenty of opportunities for restarting the offensive if that's what Ukraine wants to do.
But maybe they are instead planning a big offensive to push south in Zaporizhzhia and/or Donetsk Oblasts.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:43 pm to Chromdome35
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It looks to me like the Ukrainian eastern offensive has paused possibly ended. If they fire back up in the next week, then they just paused to resupply and reorganize.
They are pausing to secure their flank against a counter attack from Russia and to resupply since they outran their supply trains. My sauce(s) in Ukraine say that they accomplished the objectives for this stage of the offensive and they are shifting to the next. I believe that will be a push to Melitopol from Zaparozhia. That would allow the Ukrainians to either push north and attack Donetsk or push south into Crimea.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:46 pm to Chromdome35
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I hope we start to see some real movement in the south, that offensive doesn’t seem to be progressing as much as the reporting indicates.
If it was me, I would push from Blahodativka to Nova Kakhovka. Cut off every Russian east of that axis with the help of the reservoir and shut off the water supply to Crimea while your at it. They will probably retreat from Kherson by this time as to not be surrounded there by Ukraine getting behind them. Consolidate gains and move artillery/supply lines forward the Dnieper river until your ready to push on. I wouldn’t wait too long. Can’t let the Russians dig in after you break the lines. Push push push as hard as you can. The trick is to not outrun your supply lines and protecting the flanks fast enough so you don’t have to slow down the tip of the spear.
That’s what I would do if it was reasonably possible to make it happen.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:50 pm to crazy4lsu
Props to the guy for being truthful, but I wonder how many recruits he got with that sales pitch.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:02 pm to GOP_Tiger
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I think that they were overextended and definitely needed to resupply and rest. There are plenty of opportunities for restarting the offensive if that's what Ukraine wants to do.
But maybe they are instead planning a big offensive to push south in Zaporizhzhia and/or Donetsk Oblasts.
It sounds like they are making some probing attacks and then getting new satellite assessments from UK and US.
The Russian retreat might have outrun our satellite coverage and the US and UK might need a few days to figure out how far they ran and make sure there are no flanking counter attacks.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:43 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:01 am to Eurocat
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"Latest from Moscow" (twitter joke).
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:08 am to Obtuse1
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British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 15 September 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Ukrainian forces continue to consolidate their control of newly liberated areas of Kharkiv Oblast. Russian forces have largely withdrawn from the area west of the Oskil River.
The way in which Russian forces have withdrawn in the last week has varied. Some units retreated in relatively good order and under control, while others fled in apparent panic.
High-value equipment abandoned by retreating Russian forces included capabilities essential to enable Russia's artillery-centric style of warfare. Amongst these are at least one ZOOPARK counter-battery radar and at least one IV14 artillery command and control vehicle. Such abandonment highlights the disorganised retreat of some Russian units and likely localised breakdowns in command and control.
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 15 September 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Ukrainian forces continue to consolidate their control of newly liberated areas of Kharkiv Oblast. Russian forces have largely withdrawn from the area west of the Oskil River.
The way in which Russian forces have withdrawn in the last week has varied. Some units retreated in relatively good order and under control, while others fled in apparent panic.
High-value equipment abandoned by retreating Russian forces included capabilities essential to enable Russia's artillery-centric style of warfare. Amongst these are at least one ZOOPARK counter-battery radar and at least one IV14 artillery command and control vehicle. Such abandonment highlights the disorganised retreat of some Russian units and likely localised breakdowns in command and control.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:20 am to ned nederlander
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A close friendship between they and a rebuilt Ukraine would surprise a lot of people at how much they’re capable of I think. They can anchor an eastern bloc to counter the nut jobs and pacifists in Western Europe, while standing strong to Russia. Ukraine and Poland form an 80,000,000 person strong bloc of people who are going to understand the jungle grows back. I hope this war brings these two nations together in a meaningful way. Those two with modern weapons would pretty well shut down any further belligerence from the east for some period of time.
Either way we need to issue some work visas to Ukrainian females age 18-25 to help fill the worker shortage in the restaurant industry. I guess we could import a few poles too but then we could not make Polish jokes.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:26 am to cypher
meanwhile Russia lobbing missiles with a range of thousands of KM...
The US will cross "red lines" by sending Ukraine long-range missiles – Russian Foreign Ministry
Thursday, 15 September 2022, 14:12
The Ministry for Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation claimed that if the US government sends Ukraine long-range missiles, it will make the States "a party to the conflict", and Russia will react "correspondingly".
Source: Russian Kremlin-aligned information agency RIA Novosti, citing Maria Zakharova, press secretary of the Russian Foreign Ministry
Quote: "If Washington decides to supply Kyiv with missiles of a larger range, it will cross the red line and will become a party to the conflict. We are maintaining our right to defend our territories with all means available".
Ukrainska Pravda
The US will cross "red lines" by sending Ukraine long-range missiles – Russian Foreign Ministry
Thursday, 15 September 2022, 14:12
The Ministry for Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation claimed that if the US government sends Ukraine long-range missiles, it will make the States "a party to the conflict", and Russia will react "correspondingly".
Source: Russian Kremlin-aligned information agency RIA Novosti, citing Maria Zakharova, press secretary of the Russian Foreign Ministry
Quote: "If Washington decides to supply Kyiv with missiles of a larger range, it will cross the red line and will become a party to the conflict. We are maintaining our right to defend our territories with all means available".
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:28 am to cypher
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Quote: "If Washington decides to supply Kyiv with missiles of a larger range, it will cross the red line and will become a party to the conflict. We are maintaining our right to defend our territories with all means available".
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:28 am to ned nederlander
Poland has used a lot of labor from Ukraine in the past, so has Russia. Russians either don't know how to, don't want to, or drunk, to actually be productive as a whole.
I had figured that at least armaments industry had cream of the crop, but now doubt even that.
Ukraine has the 3rd large natural gas storage capacity in the world behind Russia and the USA. It has oilfields which can be developed with copious amounts of natural gas.
I had figured that at least armaments industry had cream of the crop, but now doubt even that.
Ukraine has the 3rd large natural gas storage capacity in the world behind Russia and the USA. It has oilfields which can be developed with copious amounts of natural gas.
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