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Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:27 pm to
Can’t find one link saying the 13 soldiers didn’t die. Got anything to corroborate that tweet’s claim?
Posted by Ingeniero
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:28 pm to
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I've maintained that for the most part my position on propaganda is, yeah it's war, who cares?


Pretty much this. Hell, we still have a myth that carrots help you see better in the dark because the Royal Air Force didn't want Germans knowing they had radar. I really don't give a shite if Ukraine is motivating their people via Twitter to fight against an invading force.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:30 pm to
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Pretty much this. Hell, we still have a myth that carrots help you see better in the dark because the Royal Air Force didn't want Germans knowing they had radar. I really don't give a shite if Ukraine is motivating their people via Twitter to fight against an invading force.



This. Ukrainians need the propaganda to keep fighting.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87529 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:31 pm to
Unfortunately we live in an age where everyone assumes (sometimes for good reason) everyone else is stupid and has no ability to take a nuanced take like "yes I know it's propaganda, yes I'm still supporting Ukraine, no I don't want the US to go to war, yes I understand how propaganda can lead to situations that could make it hard for us to stay out"
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6794 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:33 pm to
LMAO

“Ghost of Kiev”

“Ukrainian Reaper”

Pure propaganda. Use your heads for something other than hat racks people.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7408 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:33 pm to
I've been hearing a lot more fighting today/tonight in Kyiv in the background audio of this live webcam than last night.

youtube live
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10354 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:35 pm to
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Pure propaganda. Use your heads for something other than hat racks people.



Color me shocked that a Ukrainian president with an acclaimed career in tv show production might have encouraged propaganda through social media and videos.

If anything, I'm impressed Ukraine appears to be better at it than Russia. All we heard going into this war was how powerful Russian propaganda would be.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:38 pm to
The comments on that video
Posted by tgr4ever
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:38 pm to
Funnily enough, the ghost of Kiev was made up by some random Irish dude then of course spread on Reddit and Twitter.

Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23213 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:39 pm to
LINK

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Ukrainians testing Molotov cocktails that they've prepared for the Russians in Dnipro. LINK


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Ukrainian breweries are halting production to produce Molotov cocktails.


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Video of mass Molotov production. LINK

LINK

Better watch out, some fact checker might tell me this video is AKCHUALLY propaganda and Russia is stomping Ukraine
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:39 pm to
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I've maintained that for the most part my position on propaganda is, yeah it's war, who cares?

I'm not burning mad that the US portrayed the average German soldier in WWII as a bloodthirsty monster



Agree, I just think people (in general) on this have been real quick to emotionally jump to one conclusion or another about the success/failure of the war in one direction or another. That’s all.
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Yep see so many young men in the news footage
Some men are escorting their wives & children to the border and returning.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:40 pm to
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Pure propaganda. Use your heads for something other than hat racks people.


Probably. But the fact that they are drastically losing the media war should tell you more about how this is going for the Russians. Not to mention the bigger implications of becoming a pariah state in Europe and getting banned from everything (soccer, air space, banking, etc).

How does this benefit Putin even if he somehow occupies all of Ukraine with the ensuing guerilla war?
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:40 pm to
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Can’t find one link saying the 13 soldiers didn’t die. Got anything to corroborate that tweet’s claim?


No, which is why I simply said I’m becoming more skeptical and did not state I believe it happened or didn’t happen. Also why I didn’t just share that tweet to start with, but since I was asked.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77518 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:41 pm to
People want to believe propaganda with the slant towards the dude they support.

Of course the Ghost of Kyiv was fake.

Surprising that the Zelensky photos are one and the “Snake Island” stories are old and fake, respectively.

We have no idea what is going on there and Twitter is the absolute worst source in this situation.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:41 pm to
So what’s going on now? Is the president really in Ukraine?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:42 pm to
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We have no idea what is going on there


Strangely, the lack of propaganda from Russia may be the greatest indicator of what’s actually happening.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:43 pm to
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So what’s going on now? Is the president really in Ukraine?



Sky news interviewed the former president of Ukraine Poroshenko on the streets of Kiev wearing full armor while he made no qualms about him fighting directly.

Then he went on to pull out his Glock and tell everyone how good Austrian fire arms are .

Hard to beat that kind of publicity.
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1047 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:46 pm to
The objective truth is that Russia is great and Ukraine is bad. And the US military would be defeated by both.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77518 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:46 pm to
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Strangely, the lack of propaganda from Russia may be the greatest indicator of what’s actually happening.
Possibly.

I’m not really surprised though. Who would be distributing Russian propaganda outside of Russia?

The only thing coming out is pro-Ukrainian.

Now, I think that means they are doing better than we expected, but that actually makes me think less favorably of the situation.

If they have to pump out that much sunshine, how bad is it actually getting there?

A lot if it is probably to try and convince their citizens to not flee and, instead, fight.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 2:47 pm
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