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Posted on 7/29/22 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by Biko
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 4:58 pm to
okie dokie
Posted by Biko
Member since Jul 2022
470 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:00 pm to
OK. Good luck pulling for da Irish.. ZERo championships since the '88 lmao
Posted by Biko
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:02 pm to
wow big words for a texan
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24292 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:05 pm to
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wow big words for a texan


Dude, get right with the Lord. Somehow the good old days of the past 50 years are over. I'm pretty old so I guess if I have to go, I've lived a good life. I hope we get through one more football season though. Are you scared? Do you speak the Chinese native tongue?
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:10 pm to
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Says the person who supports the country that shelled POW camp to cover up war crimes.
What are you even talking about? Isn't your friend in the DOJ or DOD?

I'll make a declarative statement. frick off. I'll not discuss policy prescriptions with you. You have your team, I have no team. I can look at reality without bias. Go frick yourself. No military.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38245 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:10 pm to
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You are all psychopaths. You are all psychopaths.


Big juicy melt right there. Good way to end the work week.

Lol. Just saw your other post. So emotional. Bad week in gold speculation?
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 5:12 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38245 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:14 pm to
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Really, you're going to take up for the Soviet Union now? This country has lost it's fricking mind on all sides.


Now you see huh. Your issues with military spending, scope our involvement etc are valid concerns but now you see the big picture. There is no remote moral equivalence between Ukraine/ Russia, or Zelensky/ Putin; and anyone trying to equivocate is either myopic or sympathizes with authoritarianism and statism, or in Alpine and Lima’s case, openly prefers them.
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 5:19 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45763 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:15 pm to
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What are you even talking about? Isn't your friend in the DOJ or DOD?



No. My former roommate is Ukrainian and is an officer in the Ukrainian Army. His brother who I am friends with as well is in Ukrainian intelligence and his other brother is in the Ukrainian Spetznaz.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28621 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:16 pm to
Where are the Ukrainians still winning the war?
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 5:18 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16174 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:19 pm to
I bet that you probably would look perfect with a ghey powder blue striped Russian Spetznatz shirt.

Why do you support Nazis?
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:20 pm to
Are you a serious person? I'll accept that you are.

You're asking about my investments? Potentially hard currency investments? How about I ask you about your religion and beliefs? That's also deeply personal.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16174 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:20 pm to
I have to agree with you on this one
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5753 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:22 pm to
Business Insider
No matter what the Kremlin says, the sanctions against Russia are working and 'catastrophically crippling' its economy: study

Five months into the invasion of Ukraine, Russia's economy is imploding from sweeping international sanctions and a corporate exodus, a Yale University analysis has found. The analysis, released July 20, was led by Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, a professor at the Yale School of Management.

Summary - Yahoo News

In Depth Analysis of Russian Economy - Sonnenfield

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Conclusions ( of the study )

In the previous sections, it has been established that:

- Russia’s strategic positioning as a commodities exporter has irrevocably deteriorated,
as it now deals from a position of weakness with the loss of its erstwhile main markets,
and faces steep challenges executing a “pivot to Asia” with non-fungible exports such
as piped gas – as we explain further in Section II of this paper.

- Despite some lingering leakiness, Russian imports have largely collapsed, and the
country faces stark challenges securing crucial inputs, parts, and technology from
hesitant trade partners, leading to widespread supply shortages within its domestic
economy – as we explain further in Section III of this paper.

- Despite Putin’s delusions of self-sufficiency and import substitution, Russian
domestic production has come to a complete standstill with no capacity to replace lost
businesses, products and talent; the hollowing out of Russia’s domestic innovation
and production base has led to soaring prices and consumer angst – as we explain
further in Section IV of this paper.

- As a result of the business retreat, Russia has lost companies representing ~40% of its
GDP, reversing nearly all of three decades’ worth of foreign investment and
buttressing unprecedented simultaneous capital and population flight in a mass
exodus of Russia’s economic base – as we explain further in Section V of this paper.

- Putin is resorting to patently unsustainable, dramatic fiscal and monetary intervention
to smooth over these structural economic weaknesses, which has already sent his
government budget into deficit for the first time in years and drained his foreign
reserves even with high energy prices – and Kremlin finances are in much, much more
dire straits than conventionally understood – as we explain further in Section VI of
this paper.

- Russian domestic financial markets, as an indicator of both present conditions and
future outlook, are the worst performing markets in the entire world this year despite
strict capital controls, and have priced in sustained, persistent weakness within the
economy with liquidity and credit contracting – in addition to Russia being
substantively cut off from international financial markets, limiting its ability to tap
into pools of capital needed for the revitalization of its crippled economy – as we
explain further in Section VII of this paper.

- Looking ahead, there is no path out of economic oblivion for Russia as long as the
allied countries remain unified in maintaining and increasing sanctions pressure
against Russia.

This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 5:42 pm
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13530 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:26 pm to
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You are all psychopaths. You are all psychopaths.


Here's a tip for the next debate you get into: When one side is reciting facts, and your only response is to point fingers and call names....That means you lost.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:26 pm to
Jesus Christ, I know the Vandy guy will be fine with this accepted terminology...

Stop posting horseshite. It ruins your credibility. Business Insider?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30717 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:29 pm to
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Jesus Christ, I know the Vandy guy will be fine with this accepted terminology...

Stop posting horseshite. It ruins your credibility. Business Insider?


Read the 118-page paper and come back and debate.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:37 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 8:50 pm
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24292 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:38 pm to
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While I think they’re crazier than y’all are, I still think y’all are drunk on war and if left to your own devices could doom us all. There are people like me in the middle looking at both sides and are dumbfounded.


It's up to our leaders. It doesn't matter much what we think. Wish Pelosi an uneventful trip.
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 5:43 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:39 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 8:50 pm
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:41 pm to
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Read the 118-page paper and come back and debate.
I might regret the ask, but post the paper.

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