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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:44 am to ruff fish
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:44 am to ruff fish
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We have an opinion that the Kremlin is just playing for time until the end of November.
And then China will end the congress of their Communist Party.
It is not customary to fight among the Chinese Communists before the Congress.
This is the first, and the second China has not yet withdrawn all of its funds from US Treasury Treasury bonds.
He will not be allowed to withdraw everything, and China understands this.
As soon as the withdrawal of money stops, war can immediately be expected.
The American and British elites are about to flee to Australia. as soon as this happens, Ukraine will immediately become useless to anyone. That is why right now there is no movement on the fronts there.
On duty grind the most restless and play for time.
Please get a better Russian to English translation software.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:10 pm
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:48 am to DabosDynasty
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bullshite takes removed from any sense of reality of recent geopolitics.
This thread is almost 1400 pages of exactly this. Only a handful of you have been correct about anything. Most of you are living a fantasy of Ukrainian/MIC propaganda and applying military readiness standards of twenty fricking years ago to today.
I hear another celebrity is heading over to meet with Zelensky in Kiev soon so that should be exciting.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:48 am to Chromdome35
It is a stalemate at the moment. But the question is - which side benefits more from dragging this out slowly?
Ukraine doesn’t appear to feel any pressure to launch an offensive unless forced to, or until the timing is right. Right now they are aiming at specific targets such as the bridges and ammo depots, and they are hitting them from afar.
Ukraine doesn’t appear to feel any pressure to launch an offensive unless forced to, or until the timing is right. Right now they are aiming at specific targets such as the bridges and ammo depots, and they are hitting them from afar.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:50 am to Tigeralum2008
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Even with nukes we would still roll them.
If nukes start flying, everyone loses, and there are no winners.
Of those who survive the initial exchange and the subsequent fallout...about 95% will die from a lack of food, water and meds.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:01 pm to Abstract Queso Dip
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Maybe he is hitching his wagon to the innocent civilians that have been murdered.
Did he hitch his wagon to the Taliban or Sadam? Bunch of innocent civilians got killed by American troops.
If you supported Iraq and Afghanistan invasion, it is hypocritical to not support Russia. The Ukraine government was as corrupt as those two.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:13 pm to DarthRebel
If you’re expecting any sort of consistency from this group of highly propagandized goobers, you’re going to be very disappointed.
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Did he hitch his wagon to the Taliban or Sadam? Bunch of innocent civilians got killed by American troops.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:18 pm to Obtuse1
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The same way we put well over 500,000 troops over the berm in Desert Storm.
You really need to step back. Compare Iraq and Russia. Look at their size and how these troops and equipment were moved there and how long it took for Desert Storm.
Logistically it is not doable. There is not enough personal in our military to do it
We would have to ditch the All Volunteer Army that has existed since the 70s, and militarize half the manufacturing in the US.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:18 pm to DarthRebel
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If you supported Iraq and Afghanistan invasion, it is hypocritical to not support Russia. The Ukraine government was as corrupt as those two.
I supported the war against Afghanistan because they legitimately harbored, trained, and protected the individuals responsible for 9/11.
I was against the US invasion of Iraq. I am against the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Calling that hypocritical is insane.
Simply put, a Ukraine governed by a flawed democracy is still better than it being a Russian puppet.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:19 pm to DarthRebel
It’s nonsense to suggest the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts had anything to do with corruption. The US isn’t going to wage war across the world due to corruption. That’s just silly.
Regarding corruption in Ukraine, the Pro-Russian Yanukovych regime was widely considered corrupt, and was voted out in 2014.
Regarding corruption in Ukraine, the Pro-Russian Yanukovych regime was widely considered corrupt, and was voted out in 2014.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:23 pm to SoonerK
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Please get a better Russian to English translation software.
Showed your texts to my English teacher. So he said that your English is not very good.
Will you learn Russian to beat me on the Russian forum?
Or don't waste your time. Start learning Chinese right now!
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:24 pm to AGGIES
quote:Russia’s reason for this is dumb as hell, but the USA’s reason for the Middle East war was even more moronic.
It’s nonsense to suggest the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts had anything to do with corruption. The US isn’t going to wage war across the world due to corruption. That’s just silly.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:33 pm to DarthRebel
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If you supported Iraq and Afghanistan invasion, it is hypocritical to not support Russia.
I do not agree with this take.
I supported the invasion of Afghanistan, but not Iraq. There are no valid comparisons that I can see between the invasion of Afghanistan and the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
I agree that our invasion of Iraq could be compared to the Russian invasion of Ukraine as both are wars of choice, not a necessity. That said, Russia has been openly targeting the civilian population of Ukraine. While the US indeed killed civilians during both of our wars, it wasn't purposely intentional. I am not aware of any cities the US leveled in either country.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:36 pm to DarthRebel
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If you supported Iraq and Afghanistan invasion, it is hypocritical to not support Russia. The Ukraine government was as corrupt as those two.
What a fricking clown
So for those keeping score at home,
Zelensky is now both literally Hitler and Stalin, and Ukraine is the functional equivalent to the Taliban.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:36 pm to DarthRebel
If you believe in a democratic republic, and Christian values, then supporting Russia is extremely hypocritical
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:38 pm to Chromdome35
quote:There was no valid reason to invade and occupy Afghanistan.
I supported the invasion of Afghanistan, but not Iraq. There are no valid comparisons that I can see between the invasion of Afghanistan and the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
The idea that it had to happen beyond targeted military strikes and incursions to destroy defined targets or achieve defined goals with a subsequent retreat from the field is asinine.
Hell, that wasn’t even really needed.
The people involved should have been solely targeted, destroying them in a brutal fashion, to dissuade future acts.
The invasion did nothing but waste lives and money.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:40 pm to Scruffy
I don't disagree with you, I was fully for going into Afghanistan and taking out the trash. Once we killed Bin Laden, we should have pulled out and left them to play in the sand.
Nation building was doomed to fail before we ever started.
Nation building was doomed to fail before we ever started.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:44 pm to DarthRebel
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You chose who you wanted to align with. Think about that. Zelenskyy and Biden are who you are hitching your wagon to.
You left out Trump. He was providing aid to Ukraine. He warned Western Europe about Russian intentions, and about Russia using natural gas as leverage against W. E.
You Putin backers are taking the opposite side from Trump; who had Russia pegged.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:45 pm to Tigeralum2008
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I was against the US invasion of Iraq.
Ah yes, everyone "was" against Iraq. NOW!!!
Funny how when the war started, support for Iraq invasion was around 75% here in America. The only people staunchly against the invasion were the typical crazies and just around 15-17%.
So I am going to hop out on a limb and just call you all liars
Most of you were probably kids though, so you have no clue to how it unfolded.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:46 pm to doubleb
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He warned Western Europe about Russian intentions
So did Mitt Romney and he was laughed off that debate stage.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:47 pm to DarthRebel
quote:<—— 13 years old when it happened.
Most of you were probably kids though, so you have no clue to how it unfolded.
If anyone who could vote held the same opinion as overly emotional, teenage Scruffy, you should probably rethink how you come to your conclusions.
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