re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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After the first strike on the bridge the reports were that it was damaged but still passable. What is the situation after the second strike? Will another strike be required?

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There were a few more hits, I counted 6 or 8 hits, but the cars were still moving.
Need a proof?

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They have the ability to remove Ukraine from the map, but they have not. It would not be in their interests.

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Putin and his mouthpieces have made it clear that's exactly what they intended to do at the outset. They failed. Now they are stuck in an intractable conflict like an Iraq. Short term, they have conquered some of Ukraine, yes, but now must long term administer it over a largely hostile population and insurgency. You're delusional if you think that's long term winning, and straight up lying if you think the goal wasn't to subsume Ukraine entirely. So, are you lying or just delusional?

Russia has an economy less that the State of Texas and much more dependent on income from oil/gas exports. Russia desperately needs gas to flow to Europe. As far as its oil exports, it is making less profit due it has to sell at $40 per barrel discount. CEO for an oil oligarch quoted $50 per barrel to produce oil. Others say $34 per barrel cost. Given the high side of profits, Russia is still making less than $300 million per day in oil exports.

Then there is Russian refined product exports, as well as intermediates. It has completely lost the European market which is its main target and has not yet achieved close to pre Covid exports.

Europe was importing about 3 million BPD of Russian crude with 2 million BPD being replaced by US exports albeit mostly West Texas Light in excess for what refineries in the US want to blend with other grades to make it refinable.

The Rubble (spelling intentional) is artificially inflated With Russia going into debt to fund its adventure, who would bankroll such debt where there is no rule of law at all to have any security for repayment.

Europe gets fertilizer from mostly Trinidad and Norway for its imports, with some from the USA.

Ukraine is screwed economically, Europe isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be. Germany will have issues. The oil and gas pipelines to Europe and through Ukraine are still flowing.

No one will touch that small stockpile of gold Russia stored over the last several years due sanctions.

Russia has never been known to export any finished goods of any decent quality at all. It lost two contracts for military weapons to India which has always bought 100% from Russia since gaining independence from Britain.

Russia has to import labor from former Warsaw Pact nations to build and maintain manufacturing plants. Its labor force is 3rd world quality at best.

It cannot maintain its recent industrial upgrades over the last decade or even quality consumable materials. It's internal banking system cannot even work without the software from the West.

Your ideas about Russia's competence obviously come from clueless bloggers and journalists who don't know shiite from shinola

The war is sorta a stalemate right now. However, Russia seems to be slowly and methodically wearing down The Ukraine’s ability to wage war, but has been unable to make a big breakthrough. The Ukraine has managed to wreak havoc on Russian supply lines and deny them true air superiority. However, The Ukraine seems to lack any ability to project force and go on offensives to really retake territory.

Basically, The Ukraine is doing a great job of fighting a defensive war that has ground the pace of the war to a halt, but they don’t seem to be able to do anything but slowly cede more and more territory while inflicting heavy losses, but also losing manpower that cannot be replaced.

Russia has bungled logistics, coordinating military units, terrible moral, and serious issues with getting equipment, etc. With that said, they seem to be slowly winning a war of attrition, but how long will Russian military units have political will to fight? How long can they continue to supply their armies with sufficient ammunition to break Ukrainian defenses? Can Russia actually make a substantial breakthrough?

Careful, bro. The expert military strategists here are going to call you a Putin apologist for this take

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You chose who you wanted to align with. Think about that. Zelenskyy and Biden are who you are hitching your wagon to.

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Trump is not the sitting president, neither is Obama, nor is Bush or Clinton. Is there another US president who I am unaware of for Zelenskyy to ally with? Maybe he is just allying with the USA. Come to think of it that is the only entity here to ever ally with. We do not have an authoritarian like Russia has in Putin.

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Now explain how we get our invasion force to the other side of the world to roll over them and maintain or we just going to kill every Russian with a massive air campaign.

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I dunno lemme scratch my head a minute.

The same way we put well over 500,000 troops over the berm in Desert Storm. I got a ride on a C141. The US has an unparalleled ability to move military men and machines. The whole reason we are in the enviable or unenviable position of world police is our force projection ability. Russia's conventional strength was in lots and lots of arty and tanks but it is becoming painfully clear they were counting lots of tools of war that in reality are only as effective as the Tamiya and Dragon versions sitting on your shelves.

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Holy hell they are not. How do you all buy this.

Russia is going to come out the other side much stronger as well.

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We have an opinion that the Kremlin is just playing for time until the end of November.
And then China will end the congress of their Communist Party.
It is not customary to fight among the Chinese Communists before the Congress.
This is the first, and the second China has not yet withdrawn all of its funds from US Treasury Treasury bonds.
He will not be allowed to withdraw everything, and China understands this.
As soon as the withdrawal of money stops, war can immediately be expected.
The American and British elites are about to flee to Australia. as soon as this happens, Ukraine will immediately become useless to anyone. That is why right now there is no movement on the fronts there.
On duty grind the most restless and play for time.

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The war is sorta a stalemate right now. However, Russia seems to be slowly and methodically wearing down The Ukraine’s ability to wage war, but has been unable to make a big breakthrough. The Ukraine has managed to wreak havoc on Russian supply lines and deny them true air superiority. However, The Ukraine seems to lack any ability to project force and go on offensives to really retake territory.

Basically, The Ukraine is doing a great job of fighting a defensive war that has ground the pace of the war to a halt, but they don’t seem to be able to do anything but slowly cede more and more territory while inflicting heavy losses, but also losing manpower that cannot be replaced.

Russia has bungled logistics, coordinating military units, terrible moral, and serious issues with getting equipment, etc. With that said, they seem to be slowly winning a war of attrition, but how long will Russian military units have political will to fight? How long can they continue to supply their armies with sufficient ammunition to break Ukrainian defenses? Can Russia actually make a substantial breakthrough?

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This is a rational summary. It coincides with where I see the war currently as well...Stalemate until Ukraine can mount a serious offense that shows more than localized progress.

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Even with nukes we would still roll them.

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Yes, because one thing we have learned - You can win a nuclear war.

This fricking board sometimes