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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:47 pm to doubleb
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:47 pm to doubleb
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He warned Western Europe about Russian intentions, and about Russia using natural gas as leverage against W. E.
You mean Trump understands the political climate in the region better than the entirety of the Biden administration and the EU?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:47 pm to DarthRebel
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Funny how when the war started, support for Iraq invasion was around 75% here in America
It just goes to show you at least 75% of the population is prone to cheap media propaganda and easy to influence.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It just goes to show you at least 75% of the population is prone to cheap media propaganda and easy to influence.
Twenty one years later and they still are.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:51 pm to Scruffy
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If anyone who could vote held the same opinion as overly emotional, teenage Scruffy, you should probably rethink how you come to your conclusions.
Barbara Lee was literally the only person in Congress to vote against the 2001 Military Force Authorization. Looking back on that, it took a lot of courage.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:52 pm to doubleb
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You Putin backers are taking the opposite side from Trump; who had Russia pegged.
My belief Russia will win and also had warranted enough reasons to invade, should not be linked to a Putin backer.
If I had to choose between Putin and Zelenskyy, I would go with Putin. He is actually more important to achieving a stabilized world than Zelenskyy.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:56 pm to Chromdome35
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I agree that our invasion of Iraq could be compared to the Russian invasion of Ukraine as both are wars of choice, not a necessity
You guys keep talking about our war with Iraq without distinguishing between the first war and the second war.
The first war was necessary because Iraq invaded and conquered Kuwait. They were threatening Saudi Arabia. Our security as a nation was being threatened by an outlaw nation who was interrupting the free flow of oil.
The first war was a no brainer.
The second war arose because of the Clinton administration and then the Bush administration put it out there that Sadam had WMDs and was planning to use them. This turned out to be a loss of crap. That war deserves to be questioned.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:56 pm to Chromdome35
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Once we killed Bin Laden, we should have pulled out and left them to play in the sand.
October 7, 2001 - War begins
May 2, 2011 - Bin Laden killed
So you were good with just a 10 year war
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:56 pm to Scruffy
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If anyone who could vote held the same opinion as overly emotional, teenage Scruffy
You just described the DNC base and half the posters in this thread. They can not think rationally about this conflict. They’re too excited fantasizing about the Ghost of Kiev.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:58 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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You mean Trump understands the political climate in the region better than the entirety of the Biden administration and the EU?
Certainly better than Biden, and German and French leadership.
Oh and much better than you do.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:59 pm to doubleb
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You Putin backers
Spoken like a true progressive.
"Anyone who doesn't believe cheap propaganda is a putin backer." I got news for you, neutrality is the non emotional position here.
The propagandists have done a hell of a number on you people.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The same guy who accuses everyone of being a "Marxist" if they don't eat up RW propaganda. The lack of self-awareness is strong with this one. As usual.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:04 pm to mattz1122
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The same guy who accuses everyone of being a "Marxist" if they don't eat up RW propaganda.
Nope. You're a marxist because you can't live without your precious collectivism and love shitty propaganda. Your precious "free stuff.".
I got news for you left wing retards, The trump wing is the exactly came person as you. You just don't like looking in the mirror.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Thanks for proving my point, as if I needed further proof.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:05 pm to mattz1122
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needed further proof.
You need no proof, which is why you;re a leftist. Read about anti-positivity, Che.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:05 pm to DarthRebel
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My belief Russia will win and also had warranted enough reasons to invade, should not be linked to a Putin backer.
If I had to choose between Putin and Zelenskyy, I would go with Putin. He is actually more important to achieving a stabilized world than Zelenskyy.
Unsurprising coming from one of the biggest Q clowns on this site.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:05 pm to DarthRebel
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Most of you were probably kids though, so you have no clue to how it unfolded.
I turned 22 in Baghdad in June of '03. Was there from May '03-March '04, I have plenty of knowledge of how it turned out and how things were.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:06 pm to DarthRebel
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My belief Russia will win and also had warranted enough reasons to invade, should not be linked to a Putin backer.
I have no problem with that, but too many here simply want Putin to win to hurt Biden. Biden iscdead in the water. His fiscal and social policies have killed him. He doesn’t need Ukraine to lose to look bad.
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If I had to choose between Putin and Zelenskyy, I would go with Putin. He is actually more important to achieving a stabilized world than Zelenskyy.
You are asking a leopard to change his spots? Its not going to happen. He is the most destabilizing factor in Europe and the Middle East and perhaps the world. Go look at the wars and invasions he’s been behind. It’s way more than just this one.
You are thinking like Neville Chamberlain who in the 30s thought appeasing Hitler would stabilize Europe. Look what happened. One cave in led to another. Putin wants it all back. Ukrsine isn’t the end game here.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:06 pm to REG861
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Q
That shite was so funny. My god lmao
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:06 pm to doubleb
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You left out Trump.
Well, he tried at least to stop a war from happening
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:06 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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They can not think rationally about this conflict.
Yea. Let's stick to comparing Zelensky to Hitler and Stalin's love child and comparing Ukraine to the Taliban. Now THAT is highly reasonable and not at all hysterical boomer fever dreams.
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