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Posted on 7/7/22 at 4:15 pm to Palmetto98
Nah, mainly because I'm not a pussy. If you don't like America, you can leave it.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 4:51 pm to Korkstand
The SPR crude is in salt domes, when you pull crude from the SPR, many refineries cannot put in through efficiently due to salt content.
It's more efficient for US refineries to let this crude go overseas and while purchasing crude to blend for their feed stock.
The refiners would gladly take cheap SPR crude, but it's not worth the time/cost to run it through their plants.
That is why you see it going overseas.
It's more efficient for US refineries to let this crude go overseas and while purchasing crude to blend for their feed stock.
The refiners would gladly take cheap SPR crude, but it's not worth the time/cost to run it through their plants.
That is why you see it going overseas.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 5:01 pm to Korkstand
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Posted on 7/7/22 at 5:12 pm to OMLandshark
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Even Ro Khana is blasting Biden for this:
"I don’t understand why we aren’t having a ban on exports...people in my district, they're talking to me about gas prices, about higher food prices...airlines getting cancelled."
Having the discussion about banning oil exports is a whole other issue and incredibly complex.
I always cringe a little when I type "oil is a fungible commodity" because it really isn't it is a group of commodities. That is a VERY important issue here. As I understand it we can't use all of the SR sell down efficiently. That is one reason different types of oil move around the globe even though the export country may be importing at the same time.
I am willing to bet if we stopped exports of oil tomorrow it would NOT have the effect that people screaming for it want. Unless you know the global O&G market well (I do not) you aren't going to be able to predict the unintended consequences of a unilateral move like that. If we didn't need to import for efficiency nor export for money this would be a completely different story, as of now, for better or worse, we are part of a global market with regard to petrochemicals. fricking around with that isn't for people that don't understand it.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 5:36 pm to LSU7096
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many refineries cannot put in through efficiently due to salt content.
You sure about this? I know it's a crappy grade of oil in general, but I've never heard about the salt being an issue.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:07 pm to OMLandshark
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Trump got impeached for making a phone call asking about Biden and his son’s corruption
Right or wrong, he got impeached because of a quid pro quo arrangement not for asking. It's like saying Clinton got impeached for a blow job, when he actually got impeached for lying under oath about a blow job.
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What does Biden deserve from stealing oil from us and selling it to a Chinese firm his retarded son works for?
Seeing as this didn't happen, nothing
Eta but I'm sure if he sold it to Taiwan you would be jumping up and down for joy
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Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:15 pm to StormyMcMan
And back to war updates.
ISW update
ISW update
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Key Takeaways
The Russian Ministry of Defense announced that Russian forces are conducting an operational pause to rest and reconstitute.
Russian forces continued efforts to advance toward Slovyansk from the southeast of Izyum and may be setting conditions to advance from the southeast of Barvinkove—either toward Slovyansk or toward Kramatorsk.
Russian forces made marginal gains to the southeast of Siversk and continued offensive operations west of the Lysychansk area.
Russian forces continued offensive operations to the south and east of Bakhmut.
Russian forces conducted a limited and unsuccessful attack north of Kharkiv City.
Ukrainian partisans are likely continuing to target Russian-controlled railways around Melitopol.
Russian oblasts are continuing to create their own ad hoc volunteer units to compensate for personnel losses in Ukraine.
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Russian Defense Ministry Spokesperson Igor Konashenkov announced on July 7 that Russian forces in Ukraine are pausing to rest and regain their combat capabilities, confirming ISW’s assessment that Russian forces have initiated an operational pause.[
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:16 pm to StormyMcMan
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Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:18 pm to OMLandshark
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This isn’t really about economics, dude, it’s our strategic reserve. This is like selling it to the Nazis before we joined WWII. It’s the fricking principle especially as we have a gas crisis. But we have to fund this war somehow so LARPers can have your fun.
I don’t agree with diminishing the SPR in the midst of an energy shortage that is yet to see its depths when there’s at least some chance we end up involved in a hot war if this does in fact spill over outside of Ukraine. I don’t know what that chance is, but it’s greater than zero and less than the odds you project hysterically. But you can’t just ignore economic principle because you don’t like the end destination.
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This is like selling it to the Nazis before we joined WWII. It’s the fricking principle especially as we have a gas crisis.
Lol at you invoking the Nazis when you think the comparisons benefit you, but ignoring the clear comparison to the war itself in the first place.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:26 pm to DabosDynasty
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Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:27 pm to StormyMcMan
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The Russian Ministry of Defense announced that Russian forces are conducting an operational pause to rest and reconstitute.
Feels like the perfect time for more of the already promised western equipment to show up paired with a large number of the reserves Ukraine has been training to blitz the resting Russians. Just me though. From what I’ve seen on Twitter Ukraine has pummeled Russian artillery depots in the East so they could catch them very low on artillery.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:30 pm to OMLandshark
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Because I think there’s a good chance we’ll be at war with them in around a decade give or take five years. I think it’s an equivalent.
Xi has been patient and calculated, two things Hitler lacked that were his downfall. The much better comparison is to Putin, but that doesn’t fit your opinion of the war.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:38 pm to PrecedentedTimes
Oh no fellow Ukraine trannies. This isn't what I expected.
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>Phase II of the war ended with capture on Luhansk Oblast.
>The offensive operations in Phase II were conducted and spearheaded by Central Millitary District under Lapin, they started around Kremienna and finished capturing Lyman and Svatohyrsk clearing all their side of Sever Donetsk, when they completed the operation, the central grouping was moved into Toshkovka where basically immeditally they achieved deep breaktrough in Toshkovka which allowed to defeat the Gorsky-Zolote fortified area grouping, and then they pushed fast north and defeated the main Lysychansk grouping around the Oil Rafinery and few other settlements west of Lysychansk
>Russians definitely didnt expect that it would go this fast, Lysychansk was better fortified than Mariupol, with more and better fortifications, bunkers and link of trenches, with own industrial area. And more importantly it was on high ground. Yes, the grouping under Lapin was performing very well in Phase II, but that doesnt excuse this kind of poor performance from Ukrainians, especially with all the fancy stuff they have from west and numerical advantage thanks to mobilization.
>Where Central Millitary Districk was doing all the work in Phase II, all the other axis were basically on standstill with very little force, most of axis were on defensive filled with LPR/DNR conscript to hold the defenses. In some area there were very little forces but more experienced like in South of Izyum, where they were conducting harassing operations, but nothing more than that, no serious offensive operations was conducted in Izyum area or any other for that matter.
>So probably the other assault groups from other Russian Millitary Districts were replenishing and will be put into work when Phase III will start.
>Phase II, Russians adapted, minimalized their loses, showed patience, inflicted heavy loses on Ukrainians, hold the ground with little forces in all over the frontline expect losing few villages north of Kharkov
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:03 pm to notiger1997
Oil contains salt, and there are desalters for crude oil before it goes into the crude unit to begin the refining process. It is removed via water and electrostatic separation, or washed out. SPR is about 38 API gravity and either sweet or sour. It was what was refined by most refineries pre 1980's, except CA which has been heavy crude only for decades.
Most major refineries, in TX and LA, reconfigured to be heavy crude refineries in the 1980's though some converted in the 2000's to take advantage of expanding heavy crude from Canada. An integrated refinery has an increase throughput in the first stage, crude unit, with heavy crude. There have been heavy crude refineries in MS and AL for decades due there is a small amount produced in those states. They usually have asphalt production as a profit center and are small refineries.
Most major refineries, in TX and LA, reconfigured to be heavy crude refineries in the 1980's though some converted in the 2000's to take advantage of expanding heavy crude from Canada. An integrated refinery has an increase throughput in the first stage, crude unit, with heavy crude. There have been heavy crude refineries in MS and AL for decades due there is a small amount produced in those states. They usually have asphalt production as a profit center and are small refineries.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:07 pm to Gcockboi
Maybe the Ukrainian army has been obliterated. There are forty million Ukrainians. Maybe 5 to ten million of fighting age? The Russians defeated those bastards right? Probably with 150,000 soldiers. Phase 3 right? Phase 4 is to flatten Ukraine north to south, east to west. Ruff Fish? What say you?
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:49 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Interesting
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:34 pm to DabosDynasty
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 6:25 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 8 July 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Russia is likely concentrating equipment on the front line in the direction of Siversk, approximately 8km west of the current Russian front line. Its forces are likely pausing to replenish before undertaking new offensive operations in Donetsk Oblast.
Ukrainian forces continue to make gradual advances in the south-western Kherson sector.
There is a realistic possibility that Russia's immediate tactical objective will be Siversk, as its forces attempt to advance towards its most likely operational goal of the Sloviansk-Kramatorsk urban area.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 8 July 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Russia is likely concentrating equipment on the front line in the direction of Siversk, approximately 8km west of the current Russian front line. Its forces are likely pausing to replenish before undertaking new offensive operations in Donetsk Oblast.
Ukrainian forces continue to make gradual advances in the south-western Kherson sector.
There is a realistic possibility that Russia's immediate tactical objective will be Siversk, as its forces attempt to advance towards its most likely operational goal of the Sloviansk-Kramatorsk urban area.
Posted on 7/8/22 at 6:41 am to DabosDynasty
If anyone can hate Russians more than Poles it is the Lithuanians. Lithuania is the most anti Russian government in Europe.
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